Talk:2018 New York gubernatorial election

Latest comment: 3 years ago by 74.101.42.226 in topic Edit war over third party candidates

Election box and results

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The results of the general election are in a different format than previous elections. The current one is unable to accommodate the previous standard of including swings in party percentages. I'm not sure how much change would be necessary to continue the previous standard so I haven't attempted the edits necessary. Dairyfarmer777 (talk) 03:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Debates

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Will someone post the debate schedule once it is known? Skysong263 (talk) 00:36, 24 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Edit war over third party candidates

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Discuss here rather than endlessly reverting back and forth. Enigmamsg 19:20, 11 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Regarding the "information" on the proposed effort to get Libertarian candidate Larry Sharpe on the ballot for a Republican primary, the source (NewsGrowl, whatever that is) is unreliable and the information is of dubious accuracy. I have stated this several times, but the material kept getting re-added, with the other editor not offering any explanation at all until today. I am not sure that it is even possible for Sharpe (a non-Republican) to petition his way onto the Republican primary ballot. If some reliable source somewhere confirms the information, I'll have no objection to its inclusion. Until then, it should be reverted. SunCrow (talk) 06:18, 12 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
This portion may now be officially removed, as the draft campaign has not materialized and no petitions have been submitted in either one of their names according to the Official list of primary ballot candidates J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 23:50, 12 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

It is possible for Sharpe to have gotten on the GOP. In NY it is referred to as a Wilson Pakula. It is a essentially a three step process. A whole committee vote. An executive committee vote. Petitioning. —Former Republican Party Leader — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.42.226 (talk) 18:36, 24 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Surely Miner should be the only third-party candidate up their as she polled as high as 11%. Furthermore, now that Nixon is out of the race she would be the highest polling minor party candidate. Only Hawkins remains after Miner with just 4%, and Sharpe with no official poll results. - Anticitizen 98

If the candidate is on the ballot, they should be included. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 22:12, 6 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

They are, just not as a major candidate at the top of the article. - Anticitizen 98

Changes for when the page is unprotected

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As the petitions have now been submitted, I propose the following changes:

  • Change a tense so that Nixon has submitted primary petitions with 65,000 signatures. (Source: Nixon files 65,000 signatures to get on the primary ballot to challenge Cuomo from the New York Daily News)
  • Remove Greg Waltman as unsourced, and according to BoE, he did not petition.
  • As previously noted, remove the draft campaign under Republican primary.
  • Add Pankaj Shah to Republican primary candidates, although I suspect that given he has only submitted one page of petitions, Shah's petition will be challenged and thrown out. Once that is done, change "Presumptive nominee" to "Nominee" under that section. J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 23:56, 12 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Political observers have alleged that Governor Cuomo has adopted more progressive positions on a range of issues since Cynthia Nixon entered the race and observers have termed this shift the Cynthia effect.[1][2][3] The credibility of the "Cynthia Effect" has also been called into question, as Nixon's campaign has not appeared to hurt Cuomo's bid for re-election.[4] The LGBTQ Nation also acknowledged Cuomo's history of progressive credentials, including his successful 2011 push to legalize same-sex marriage in New York state.[5]

"Cynthia effect"

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I had added most of this and others added to it and improved it. Then it got deleted. I think it's an important aspect of the race: the impact of the race on the policies of the governor. Some examples of Cuomo's recent shifts could be added.

Political observers have noted that Governor Cuomo has appeared to adopt more progressive positions on a range of issues since Cynthia Nixon entered the race and observers have termed this shift the Cynthia effect.[6][7][8] [9] [10]

Zogby polls

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An anon recently added a number of Zogby polls. A quick Google search suggests that these polls aren't generally considered reliable ([1], [2]). Should we be including them on this page? Pburka (talk) 21:44, 17 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

We make no distinction as to the quality of the polls; it's up to the readers to interpret. Mélencron (talk) 01:13, 18 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
That's not a good policy. We certainly don't want to promote obscure, self-selecting web-polls, or polls conducted by the candidates. We either need a policy-based criteria for including polls or we should remove all polls completely. Pburka (talk) 14:15, 18 July 2018 (UTC)Reply
I mean, that is essentially the existing consensus... the only polls that aren't included are ones that aren't weighted to demographics (i.e., web/Twitter polls). We include polls commissioned by candidates or partisan groups if they note enough methodological information (dates, sample size, and pollster) and the pollster is known to be legitimate, but denote them within the table (e.g. with a "(R-Blackburn)" or "(D-Latino Victory Fund)"). Otherwise, it isn't our job to discriminate between pollsters based on arbitrary "quality" criteria. Mélencron (talk) 14:35, 18 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Fundraising reports

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Larry Sharpe's contribution and money-on-hand numbers were just corrected on the Board of Elections site. Can whoever adds up all the total contributions for the "Fundraising" section update the table? May want to check for the other candidates as well. @Politicssince16: Ghoul fleshtalk 04:24, 30 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

So far I have put up fundraising number for all candidates who are likely to qualify for the november ballot, (given that cynthia nixon has the WFP line). all ballot qualified parties have candidates which are already in table, and for independents other than Stephanie Miner to collect 15,000 signatures seems unlikely to me. I will update fundraising reports semi-monthly from august on. Politicssince16 (talk)

References

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  1. ^ The Guardian, 8 June 2018, Nixon Brings Spirit of Sanders to New York Governor's Race
  2. ^ The Atlantic 2018 May 21, the 'Cynthia Effect' Real?: Cynthia Nixon’s strong debut has New York Governor Andrew Cuomo scrambling to the left in a heated primary. But can Democratic voters trust a celebrity candidate in the age of Trump?
  3. ^ The Nation, 6 June 2018, Nixon for Governor
  4. ^ Madina Toure (May 2, 2018). "Despite the Cynthia Nixon Effect, Andrew Cuomo Is Still Leading Among New York Voter". New York Observer. Retrieved June 13, 2018.
  5. ^ John Gallagher (May 27, 2018). "Cynthia Nixon may never be governor, but she's already changed NY politics". LGBTQ Nation. Retrieved June 13, 2018.
  6. ^ The Guardian, 8 June 2018, Nixon Brings Spirit of Sanders to New York Governor's Race
  7. ^ The Atlantic 2018 May 21, the 'Cynthia Effect' Real?: Cynthia Nixon’s strong debut has New York Governor Andrew Cuomo scrambling to the left in a heated primary. But can Democratic voters trust a celebrity candidate in the age of Trump?
  8. ^ The Nation, 6 June 2018, Nixon for Governor
  9. ^ Madina Toure (May 2, 2018). "Despite the Cynthia Nixon Effect, Andrew Cuomo Is Still Leading Among New York Voter". New York Observer. Retrieved June 13, 2018.
  10. ^ John Gallagher (May 27, 2018). "Cynthia Nixon may never be governor, but she's already changed NY politics". LGBTQ Nation.