Talk:2018 Shanghai knife attack

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Are there any English language news reports about this event? Including one or two would assist with verification and notability for those who do not read Chinese language news sources. Even providing English translations of the existing cited headlines and publishers would assist. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 08:54, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Example:

• Zhou Wenting (23 May 2019). "Man sentenced to death for murder of Shanghai schoolchildren". chinadaily.com.cn. Shanghai. Retrieved 15 March 2021. On the morning of June 28, 2018, Huang Yichuan, a native of Shaoyang city, Hunan province, killed two boys near the gate of the Shanghai World Foreign Language Primary School on Pubei Road in Xuhui district, Shanghai. He also injured another boy and a woman.

Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:18, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Arrested lost in translation

What does "Arrested" mean in a Chinese criminal justice context? One English language report suggests the offender was amost immediately arrested by nearby Police and security staff at the scene of the crime and taken into custody (detained), so what happend when they were "arrested" the next day? Does this second arrest mean the perpetrator was charged? See: Yang Fan (Mandarin); Wong Lok-to (Cantonese); Luisetta Mudie (English ed.) (28 June 2018). "Two Children Die in Shanghai Primary School Knife Attack". Radio Free Asia. Retrieved 15 March 2021. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 10:04, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 24 February 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved to 2018 Shanghai knife attack. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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2018 knife murders at Pubei Road, Shanghai → ? – Doesn't seem to be the most common way to refer to the incident. I am unable to check Chinese sources. Mooonswimmer 00:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

The Chinese sources vary in how they title or name the case. The common name is somewhere between "6•28"浦北路持刀杀人案 (6/28 Pubei Road knife murder case), 上海浦北路持刀杀人案 (Shanghai Pubei Road knife murder case), 浦北路杀害小学生案 (Pubei Road schoolkids murder case), 浦北路杀害小学生案 (Pubei Road primary schoolkids murder case), "6·28"浦北路持刀杀人案 (6/28 Pubei Road knife murder case). The variance in the naming within China is likely due to the audience of the publications, which can be local/metropolitan Shanghai, regional, national, and legal profession.

However, if we do a search in English on Google, we can see that this case was reported internationally in English:

• Shanghai Knife Attack Kills Two Schoolchildren
• Knife-wielding man kills 2 schoolchildren in Shanghai
• Two boys fatally stabbed near school in Shanghai
• Kindergarten children injured in China knife attack

Headlines also vary, but we can also say that on the international level, the reporting of the case stopped at the city level, i.e. Shanghai, rather than going down to the localised name. There was no other cases in Shanghai that rose to this international level of reporting in 2018. Therefore, keeping to the WP:NCE convention, I propose that the name of the article to be either of the following:

• 2018 Shanghai knife attack, if we want to include the injured victims
• 2018 Shanghai knife murder, if we are focusing on the deaths of the 2 victims

– robertsky (talk) 03:29, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

I don't have any opposition Robertsky's assessment, and the current title isn't great, but more generally, the current title is a descriptive one and not an attempt to identify a common name. Dekimasuよ! 03:53, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Support move to 2018 Shanghai knife attack - per nom. The current name is not WP:CONCISE. Since all of the victims were not killed, it would be best to refer to an "attack" rather than "murders". Estar8806 (talk) 03:50, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

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