Talk:2019 Chicago Marathon/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 07:46, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm reviewing the Boston Marathon article, so I figured I'd tackle this one as well while I'm at it. Expect comments in the next few days. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:46, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@PCN02WPS: hi there. It's been four days since you started this review. Just wandering when you plan to get round to it? Kind regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 18:39, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Willbb234 – very sorry for the delay, thank you for your patience. Comments are below. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Lead

• I know it's called the "2019 Chicago Marathon", but I'd add the year onto the date of the race in the first sentence.
  •  Done
• Change venue in infobox to "Chicago, Illinois, United States"
  •  Done

Course

• The units of measurement switch back and forth, with the overall distance being given in km (with miles in parentheses), but with specific landmarks on the route being detailed with reference to miles. I'd recommend switching the first sentence to say the distance is "26.219 mi (42.195 km)" since the race is in the United States and a marathon is traditionally associated with the 26.2-mile distance
  •  Done
• Name change from IAAF to World Athletics occurred in October 2019, the same month as the race - if you don't have a specific date when that change occurred, I'd default to assuming the change happened already and drop "(IAAF)" from the "as sanctioned by World Athletics", since the initialism refers to the former name.
  •  Done by the time of the race, the organisation already had its new name.
• "go along Michigan Avenue, Grand Avenue then State Street" → add comma after "Grand Avenue" and change "then" to "and"
  •  Done

Field

• Overall structure could use some tweaking - you talk about the women's race, then the wheelchair races, then the men's race. Is there a reason for this order? If not, I'd move the men's race above the wheelchair races.
  •  Done
• "Hasay had finished third in 2017 and third at the 2017 Boston Marathon..." → if "third in 2017" refers to the 2017 Chicago Marathon, I'd clarify that
  •  Done I hope it's clear now.
• "...but had not competed at the 2018 Chicago Marathon or 2018 Boston Marathon marathons" → last word is unneeded
  •  Done
• "ten time Boston winner Ernst van Dyk..." → "ten-time"; same for "eight time", "four time", and "three time"
  •  Done
• "having ran 2:04:06 in 2018 and won four of the last five" → wording is a touch awkward, recommend changing underlined portion to "and having won four of the last five" or "and a winner of four of the last five"
  •  Done
• "included Asefa Mengstu who had a personal best of 2:04:06, but had only competed in one World Marathon Major where he finished seventh" → add comma after "Mengstu", remove comma after his PB time, add comma after "Major"
  •  Done
• add comma after "Dickson Chumba"
  •  Done
• specify that the wheelchair race started at 7:20 a.m. CT
  •  Done

Race summary

• Units switch back and forth here as they do in the Course section - recommend changing all to miles, with km in parentheses for the same reasons given above.
  • I'm inclined to disagree. Running race distances such as 5 km and 10 km are universally recognised and competed over, even in the US where miles are used in day-to-day life (you can see more at 5K run). This also means that 'time checks' (digital checkpoints where runners' times are recorded) are often over regular kilometre intervals such as 5 km. It wouldn't be precise if these were changed to mile distances as there would be rounding problems. I try to stick with what the source says as this avoids confusion, after all, the mile distance is in brackets afterwards so readers can just look at that as well.

First paragraph

• "a large pack formed and they went through halfway together" → change to something like "a large pack formed, which stayed together for the first half of the race" or similar
  •  Done
• In the women's wheelchair race, the race was → slightly repetitive (emphasis is mine)
  •  Done

Second paragraph

• As with Boston article, "slow" is subjective, so put quotes around that if it's a quote
  •  Done added explanation.
• "Running behind two male pacemakers" → Is specifying "male pacemakers" as opposed to just "pacemakers" important here? You're more familiar with the sport than I am, so I'll defer to you here.
  • There's a photo at pacemaker (running) showing female pacemakers, so I think it's best to clarify.
• comma after "by 3:14" and remove "thus securing her..." clause - prize money isn't mentioned anywhere else in this section and the prize for a course record is noted in the section above.
  •  Done removed
• comma after "and Radcliffe"
  •  Done

Third paragraph

• "with Rupp three second behind" → "seconds"
  •  Done
• "abandoned the race citing a calf strain having been in pain since mile 6." → current wording makes it seem like the calf strain was in pain, rather than that Rupp was in pain because of the calf strain
  •  Done rephrased

References

• Same thing with the Boston article - in the website parameter, specify with the name of the website, unless that name includes a ".com" or similar
  •  Done

Other comments

• If possible, a few pictures would be great - perhaps something similar to the 2019 Boston Marathon article.
  • I searched long and hard for photos. There were a lot on Flickr, but they were all copyright protected. I don't want to add photos for the sake of adding them, but I could add some of the features along the route. One that springs to mind is the Willis Tower which is seen regularly throughout the course (per an above source). What do you think?

@PCN02WPS: thanks very much once again. I've fixed all but one of the issues you pointed out. The explanation is a little way above. Kind regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 13:03, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Fair point on your comment - I'll trust your judgement. Landmark pictures are up to you, they're not integral to the article but a picture of the Willis Tower could spice up the course section, if anything. All of my concerns are satisfied, happy to pass. Well done! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 00:59, 19 April 2021 (UTC)