Talk:2020 Michigan Democratic presidential primary

Open or Closed

There has been some back and forth in the article about whether the Michigan primary is open or closed. The State of Michigan declares it is a closed primary, but the problem is with their use of these terms as can be found in this Q & A.

"Voters in an open primary are given a ballot with a column listing each qualified party’s candidates. Voters then decide which party primary they wish to participate in by voting only in the column of their party choice while in the privacy of the voting station. Voting for candidates in more than a single party’s column will void the entire partisan ballot. Voters in closed primaries must state the party primary they wish to participate in before being issued a ballot. The ballot given to voters only has candidates of the party that corresponds to the voter’s choice."

This is not the way these terms are typically described. The terms "open" and "closed" simply refer to whether one need's to be registered with a party to vote in that party's primary. In that sense, Michigan is an open primary, as listed here. Indeed, the first answer in the document quoted above says that "There is no political party registration requirement in Michigan Election Law." I would prefer this article to use the standard definitions for these terms, rather than the State of Michigan's odd definitions. --Spiffy sperry (talk) 01:19, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

As this article is about Michigan‘s Democratic primary we should use terms in this article as they are used and defined by the state of Michigan, which declares that this primary is a closed primary. Drdpw (talk) 02:00, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

But that is not Wikipedia policy. Michigan is a primary source, and their information has been interpreted by a reliable, secondary source (the link in my comment above, plus this one). See WP:Primary. --Spiffy sperry (talk) 14:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

The 2020 Michigan presidential primaries are closed according to: [1], [2] (semi-closed according to [3]). Drdpw (talk) 15:29, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

You summarize those references correctly. However, the sources proceed to define "closed" or "semi-closed" in a non-standard way, just like the Michigan Bureau of Elections does. All of the sources saying "closed" seem to think that being limited to either a D or R ballot means it's closed. That's not correct; it is actually about party registration. If an R can choose a D ballot, which they clearly can in Michigan, it's open. --Spiffy sperry (talk) 15:57, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I agree, Michigan is 100 percent an OPEN primary, it just doesn't allow for "split-ticket" voting. Perhaps that could be clarified, but it is definitely an open primary by the standard definition. It doesn't make sense to use a non-standard definition if a single source from a state website defines it that way, since it is broadly considered that Michigan is an open primary. CharlesBluth (talk) 02:05, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Map?

Someone needs to add the result map to the infobox. I'm not experienced enough to do it. Smith0124 (talk) 20:15, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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Rfc notice

Editors of this page are encouraged to participate in an Rfc on Talk:2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries pertaining to the infobox of this page and all state by state primary pages. The Rfc is about candidates who have withdrawn. Smith0124 (talk) 00:49, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Map size

Could someone fix the congressional map so it’s the same size as the county map? WavyPhoton (talk) 06:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)