Talk:2020 Oregon wildfires
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 2020 Oregon wildfires article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Sources
edit- https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/09/southern-oregon-wildfires-reporter-april-ehrlich/
- https://katu.com/news/local/gov-brown-addresses-destructive-oregon-wildfires-on-wednesday
- https://kval.com/news/local/fema-dedicates-federal-funds-to-fighting-holiday-farm-fire-2-other-oregon-wildfires
- https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/09/wildfires-spur-evacuations-in-southern-oregon-gov-kate-brown-gives-updates-on-fires/
- https://www.koin.com/news/wildfires/list-temporary-shelters-as-wildfires-rip-through-oregon/
- https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-gov-brown-invokes-emergency-act-as-wildfires-burn-across-the-state
- https://kval.com/news/local/wildfires-close-several-highways-across-oregon-cascades-coast-range
- https://kval.com/news/local/holiday-farm-fire-east-of-springfield-has-burned-over-100k-acres-since-monday-night
- https://kpic.com/news/local/more-evacuations-ordered-due-to-wildfire-near-glide-oregon
- https://katu.com/news/local/some-oregon-state-parks-closed-due-to-wildfires
- https://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/much-of-mount-jefferson-wilderness-closed-as-wildfires-burn-in-central-oregon/article_5cef7ad8-f088-11ea-9b72-e7bf848e7164.html
- https://ktvz.com/news/fire-alert/2020/09/08/two-four-two-fire-near-chiloquin-triples-in-size-to-6000-acres-new-evacuations/
Individual articles?
editI think we've reached the point where some of these fires have achieved notability. At least 3 fires have reached "mega fire" status, engulfing around one million acres. The Beachie/Riverside fire complex has created half a million refugees; Sandy, Beavercreek, & Oregon City are deserted. Several entire towns have been reduced to ashes. I might be biased here, owning a house only a few dozen miles from the uncontrolled edge of one fire, & having witnessed here in Portland skies filthy with smoke for most of this week, but I believe these fires are worth recording. -- llywrch (talk) 14:07, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Possibly, but minimal crossing WP:GNG threshold doesn't mean we are obligated to create a half dozen subarticles. Its entirely possible to create a single comprehensive article covering multiple fires, treating each with due weight, and avoiding unduly intricate details of interest primarily only to extremely local audiences. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:14, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- I would consider a wild fire threatening the destruction of a metropolitan region inhabited by over a million people crosses the notability threshold more than minimally. I guess I should apologize that these fires don't threaten a notable city such as London, Chicago, or Shanghai, let alone foul its skies with the worse pollution. The Santiam Fire complex has begun to rival the Tillamook Burn -- one of the largest in Oregon history -- in size. And the destruction wrought by three of the fires -- the Holliday Farm, the Almeda & the Santiam -- would be best described in individual articles. At least in my extremely local opinion. -- llywrch (talk) 04:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- They are all notable, but it depends on whether someone wants to put in the work. I think we should make them sections here and if they get big spin them out. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 04:05, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- I would consider a wild fire threatening the destruction of a metropolitan region inhabited by over a million people crosses the notability threshold more than minimally. I guess I should apologize that these fires don't threaten a notable city such as London, Chicago, or Shanghai, let alone foul its skies with the worse pollution. The Santiam Fire complex has begun to rival the Tillamook Burn -- one of the largest in Oregon history -- in size. And the destruction wrought by three of the fires -- the Holliday Farm, the Almeda & the Santiam -- would be best described in individual articles. At least in my extremely local opinion. -- llywrch (talk) 04:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
What are the colors for?
editIn the Acres burned section of the list, what is red and green for? And isn't that sort of the first rule of making a chart...to explain what all the information means? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.44.253 (talk) 12:01, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- Great question. Green=Contained, Red=Not Contained. Valfontis (talk) 22:39, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Almeda Drive Fire and Holiday Farm
editI do believe the Almeda Drive and Holiday Farm Fires are significant enough to warrant their own pages. However, I’m not apt enough yet at this site unfortunately— but I will try to get those started at least. BloolizardK (talk) 23:51, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
I'll try to get some research on the fire soon, so I'll be able to contribute. I ended up escaping the ashfall and smoke from Junction City when I moved on the 10th. COrmsbee1 (talk) 06:28, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- COrmsbee1, Still planning to do that? Tyrone Madera (talk) 05:19, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- I've been trying to find some more info on the fire that wasn't related to the constant thefts that were happening in the area. I have no idea whether or not the fire was man-made or natural as of yet. I'll do some more digging. C.L. Swisher 21:11, 18 December 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by COrmsbee1 (talk • contribs)
Riverside fire caused by human?
editThis discussion has been disrupted by block evasion, ban evasion, or sockpuppetry from the following user:
Comments from this user should be excluded from assessments of consensus. |
I don't see it in the ref. Could be missing it. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 00:12, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
It's there : "Cause: Human" . Perhaps easier to see in this link (which is linked from the current source in the article: https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/article/7174/57254/) Trying to reconnect (talk) 23:55, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Article needs updating
editThis article doesn't seem to have any significant content updates since somewhere around 2021 or so. There are still references to "ongoing" investigations (with 2020 article refs). It needs to be updated with current information, such as whether the Almeda fire was started by arson or not, since the article (and a few other related ones) say that there was an ongoing investigation as of September/October 2020.
Do we know if the 2020 season is still considered the worst (previously called "one of the worst" in the article) in Oregon history or has a later season surpassed it?