Talk:2021 Ethiopian general election
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Addition with "Dictatorial"
editDiscuss or verify how the Prosperity Party is "dictatorial" over this scientific journal. To be clear to readers, addition of more reliable sources is better than to put one. The Supermind (talk) 06:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Infobox
editWe should remove most of the candidates in the infobox and only keep the ones that actually won seats. Wowzers122 (talk) 18:30, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- Go for it. That would also differentiate the infobox better from the "Parties and coalitions" section, which seems to contain pretty much the same information and redundant currently. - Indefensible (talk) 18:33, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Wowzers122: Gede'o People Democratic Party should also be added as they won 2 seats I think, having trouble finding information about them though. See https://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=934143 (not sure how reliable this ref is, but seems to be more accurate than other sources on the Internet currently). - Indefensible (talk) 19:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Indefensible: I got a reliable source right here saying so https://borkena.com/2021/07/10/ethiopia-election-result-points-to-landslide-win-for-pm-abiy-party/ Could you find the leader of the Gede'o People Democratic Party? I can't seem to find him/her.
RiverNile1's edit
editRiverNile1 made an edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2021_Ethiopian_general_election&type=revision&diff=1033097297&oldid=1033066798&diffmode=source that was reverted by Gyrofrog for being a sockpuppet account and violating WP:THREESTRIKES, however content of the edit looks OK (and seems properly referenced). Not an expert so could be wrong, but will add it back soon unless there is a problem with the content specifically or any further rules this would violate. - Indefensible (talk) 20:30, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- Before you do that, please consider that these accounts have a rather long, and documented, history of misrepresenting what their cited sources say (see Talk:Habesha peoples and its archives, as well as Pathawi's concerns at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cushitic peoples). In one instance (see here), they fabricated a citation to make a blog post appear as though it appeared in an academic journal. (It didn't.) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not following this page or this issue, but my experience with this sockpuppeteer at the erstwhile Cushitic peoples & Habesha peoples is as Gyrofrog describes. We're regularly dealing with fabricated sources, citations of real sources that do not contain the information at issue, &c. When I have reviewed contributions at these articles, the great majority of the time the sources adduced did not support the claims. I haven't looked at the edits in question here & have no opinion regarding them, but in general with this user I agree that either outright deletion or a careful reading of the sources cited is called for. Pathawi (talk) 20:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for providing the info above, will try to dig into the background context of this a bit. - Indefensible (talk) 20:53, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- I was procrastinating this morning (why do I do this to myself?) & read the sources provided. The expansion of the targets to include Gurage people as well as Amharas is justified by the articles, but none of the rest. It may or may not be true that the violence targeted Rastafarians & government-supporting Oromos—certainly non-Amharas/non-Gurage people were killed—but the groups RiverNile1 mentions are not identified as targets in these articles, two of which in fact explicitly identify targets. The article on Rastafarianism in Ethiopia was written four years prior to the massacre in question. Pathawi (talk) 04:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking into it, I also decided not to pursue further after some investigation. - Indefensible (talk) 18:38, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- I was procrastinating this morning (why do I do this to myself?) & read the sources provided. The expansion of the targets to include Gurage people as well as Amharas is justified by the articles, but none of the rest. It may or may not be true that the violence targeted Rastafarians & government-supporting Oromos—certainly non-Amharas/non-Gurage people were killed—but the groups RiverNile1 mentions are not identified as targets in these articles, two of which in fact explicitly identify targets. The article on Rastafarianism in Ethiopia was written four years prior to the massacre in question. Pathawi (talk) 04:33, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for providing the info above, will try to dig into the background context of this a bit. - Indefensible (talk) 20:53, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not following this page or this issue, but my experience with this sockpuppeteer at the erstwhile Cushitic peoples & Habesha peoples is as Gyrofrog describes. We're regularly dealing with fabricated sources, citations of real sources that do not contain the information at issue, &c. When I have reviewed contributions at these articles, the great majority of the time the sources adduced did not support the claims. I haven't looked at the edits in question here & have no opinion regarding them, but in general with this user I agree that either outright deletion or a careful reading of the sources cited is called for. Pathawi (talk) 20:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)