Talk:2021 London Marathon

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:08, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

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Shura Kitata and Brigid Kosgei, who won the 2020 London Marathon

David Weir will be competing for the 22nd consecutive time.

• ... that today's London Marathon will have 50,000 runners, and another 50,000 virtual competitors? Source: [1]
  • ALT1:... that today's London Marathon includes runners Shura Kitata and Brigid Kosgei (pictured), who won last year's event? Source: [2], [3]
  • ALT2:... that today's London Marathon is the 22nd consecutive appearance at the race for David Weir (pictured)? Source:https://athleticsweekly.com/athletics-news/brent-lakatos-and-nikita-den-boer-to-defend-london-marathon-titles-1039948564/

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Death of Orville Blackwood
• Comment: Date request: 3 October (day of race). Picture for ALT1 only. Course section is mostly copied from 2019 article, but more than enough unique content

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:27, 12 August 2021 (UTC).

• * ... New enough, long enough, QPQ provided. Hook in article followed by citation to a source containing hook fact. No copyvio issues. Images clear and free....for ALT1. If proposed hook used, then check nearer the time that the figures remain same. Okay with me to use on 3 October. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:03, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
  • • All the hooks could potentially become untrue if circumstances change- will update this nomination if any of the hooks change or become untrue (i.e. if the competitors listed withdraw, or the 50k is lowered). Joseph2302 (talk) 10:10, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2021 London Marathon/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 05:01, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I'll look at this tomorrow when I am more awake! — GhostRiver 05:01, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Background

• "Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the race was postponed from April until October to maximise the chances of a mass participation event." → "The 41st running of the London marathon was originally scheduled for April, but due to the continued effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, the race was postponed until April to increase the chances that such a large event could be held safely."

•  Done

• "The prize money for winners of the elite races was $55,000, with the total prize money awarded being $313,000." → "The winner of each event receives a prize of $55,000, with a total amount of $313,000 awarded to the four respective winners."

•  Done Reworded, the $313,000 is for all positions (not just winner), have clarified that

• I know that the source lists the prize purse in USD, but shouldn't it be in pounds, as a UK prize?

•  In progress The only source I can find in pounds is [4], which isn't a reliable source, as it's a depreciated source. Still looking, but reliable sources seem to use USD (possibly they pay all prize money in USD, will add source if that's true)

• Update: Can't find source in GBP, and we don't have a template to easily convert to GBP (we have one for converting to USD and EUR, but not GBP)

Course

• This section is lifted almost entirely from [5] here and will need to be rewritten accordingly

•  Fixed That site has copied from us (their article is from 3 October 2021, it was added to this article on 12 August 2021, and is partly copied with attribution from the 2019 article, where it was added on 15/16 February 2021). I have tagged Talk:2021 London Marathon to note this backwards copyvio

• "The 2021 race was run on the traditional London Marathon course; the 2020 event was run on a special course around St James's Park as the race was held behind closed doors." → "Unlike the 2020 event, which was run behind closed doors on a special course around St James's Park, the 2021 race returned to the traditional London Marathon course."

•  Done

Competitors

• "In the elite men's race, 2020 race winner Shura Kitata competed,[13][14] as did Vincent Kipchumba and Sisay Lemma, who finished second and third in the 2020 event." → "The top three finishers in the 2020 elite men's race – winner Shura Kitata and runners-up Vincent Kipchumba and Sisay Lemma – all returned to compete in 2021."
• Comma after "best time behind Kosgei"
• "twice champion" → "two-time champion"

•  Done all of these changes. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:16, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Race summary

• Comma instead of semicolon after "and as a result"

•  Question: There are two places that use "as a result", and neither has a semi-colon currently- is this fix still needed, and if so, where specifically?

• "wasn't allowed" → "was not allowed"

•  Done

Non-elite events

• "in 40 separate groups over the course of 90 minutes" → "with 40 separate groups beginning over the course of 90 minutes"

•  Done

• "The race did not have pacers to help competitors with their timings; pacers had been used every year since 2000." → "It was the first time since 2000 that the race did not use pacers to help competitors with their timings."

•  Done

• "and television presenters"

•  Redundant As I added some more celebrities, the "and" is no longer needed in that position.

Results

• Although I see from other London marathon articles that it's customary to have "Source: " below the chart, it may be cleaner to have the citation come in the chart header (e.g. after "Elite men's top 20 finishers")

•  Done for all 4 tables

References

• "inews.co.uk" → "i"
• "rmg.co.uk" → "Royal Museums Greenwich"
• "coachmag.co.uk" → "Coach"

•  Done All fixed now

General comments

• Images are properly licensed and relevant to the article
• One of the two wheelchair photos should be moved per MOS:SANDWICH

•  Done I converted them into one image of both people, which should fix the MOS issue

• No stability concerns in the revision history
• Copyvio concerns noted above

• Mentioned this above, it's a backwards copyvio (that site copied Wikipedia, not the other way around)

Putting on hold to allow nominator to address comments. Feel free to ping me with questions, and let me know when you're finished. — GhostRiver 17:02, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing- I will try to look at these fixes in next few days. Have checked the aledged copyvio, and it is actually a reverse copyvio (i.e. they're copying this article, their article was written after this one), will tag this article's talkpage accordingly. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:00, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

GhostRiver I have addressed all the concerns where possible- left a question on one of the comments, and unfortunately can't find a source in British pounds for the prize money. Let me know if anything else is needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:23, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for making those changes, especially for noting the backwards copyvio! Don't worry about the prize money if you really can't find the conversion anywhere, and as for the semicolon, it's, uh, entirely possible that was a speck of dirt on my laptop, because I don't see it either. My apologies, passing now! — GhostRiver 01:27, 31 October 2021 (UTC)