Talk:2021 London mayoral election/Archives/2021/April

Other candidates

I've added conspiracy theorist Brian Rose now there's an RS citation. It looks like conspiracy theorist Piers Corbyn is also planning to stand, but I've not seen a good RS yet, so I suggest we wait on that.

What we also have is an older list of other candidates who announced before the election's delay. Can we have an effort to see whether there is more recent RS saying these people are standing (or are not standing)? Bondegezou (talk) 20:13, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

OK, I've been through the older list and there's an RS citation or more than one for each of them intending to stand. We await better reporting on Corbyn. Bondegezou (talk) 20:31, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

I have Googled "Candidate Name" "Mayor of London" and these are my results

Candidate	Results of search term
Count Binface	Google results suggest "one off" coverage and nothing else. Twitter feed has "next stop Mayor" in bio
Drillminister	Regular and very recent Mayoral campaign Tweets
David Kurten	Regular and very recent Mayoral campaign Tweets
Winston McKenzie	Nothing recent on Twitter and although website mentions campaign I'm not convinced anything is truly "active"
Charlie Mullins	Nothing recent in news sources
Nims Obunge	Nothing recent found. LinkedIn profile present with campaign information
Rosalind Readhead	Blog appears dead. Twitter bio mentions Mayoral election but nothing active in Tweets

doktorb _words^deeds 20:34, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I doubt several of them will successfully stand, but that's just my opinion. This late November 2020 article lists all of them: it's not great, but I think it meets RS, so we should follow what it says.

Count Binface's GoFundMe is still up. Its total is exactly the same as it was reported in that late Nov 2020 article! He tweeted as recently as 22 Dec about his campaign.

There's a Sputnik News article that describes McKenzie as a former London mayoral candidate, but Sputnik isn't remotely reliable, so...?

Redhead's website and blog are both still up. She remains active on Twitter. Bondegezou (talk) 21:49, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Given edit-warring over Brian Rose, should we ask for semi-protection? Bondegezou (talk) 13:06, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Have put in a semi-protection request at Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#2021_London_mayoral_election given ongoing IP edit-warring. Bondegezou (talk) 12:34, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

@Ralbegen and Doktorbuk: and anyone else, while IP edit-warring continues and until we get protection, can I request help keeping an eye on the article? Bondegezou (talk) 14:22, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Of course, sorry, I'll keep a Watchlist tab open! Ralbegen (talk) 14:28, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm a peasant without an account set up so I can't edit but the list of candidates is live now https://www.londonelects.org.uk/im-candidate/statements-persons-nominated, Drillminister and Charlie Mullins are out, Richard Hewison from Rejoin EU, Vanessa Hudson from Animal Welfare Party and Niko Omilana standing as an independent are on the list.

Thanks IP editor! I've begun making those changes. Bondegezou (talk) 15:54, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

@Bondegezou: Just to flag for you, McKenzie isn't on the SOPN either! Ralbegen (talk) 15:59, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Ralb. OK, I think I've done them all. Bondegezou (talk) 16:16, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I had, in fact, missed one and some extra party names, so thanks to OZOO who caught them. Bondegezou (talk) 18:31, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

New poll 7 Apr

See [1] Bondegezou (talk) 11:12, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Polling graphic

The smoothed lines in the polling are anchored to the first and last values. However, consider the recent polling. The most recent value gives a much lower figure for Khan than a poll carried out over an overlapping period and two other recent polls. It seems unlikely that Khan's polling has plummeted in the last couple of days. Rather, the Savanta poll is likely to be an outlier or to reflect a different methodology (there's been discussion about how Savanta prompt for all the candidates while the other pollsters don't). It would be better for the trend line not to be anchored to the Savanta result, but for it to end at a (weighted) average of the most recent polls. Can that be done? Bondegezou (talk) 10:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. Would this work? (It's LOESS rather than a weighted average, though, which I prefer in general and means minimal tinkering with my code).

A graph of opinion polls taken for the 2021 London mayoral election with LOESS curves

Ralbegen (talk) 18:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Nice work, Ralbegen, I prefer this design to the current one, although it does mean that editors won't be able to update the graph at the same time as the table. I agree that LOESS is better for polling graphs, weighted averages are designed for data with a consistent period between points (a day, a week etc.) and so can be unreliable with irregular data. PinkPanda272 (talk/contribs) 20:49, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll implement it in the article (others can revert and discuss if they prefer the previous version). I think I'm reasonably speedy with the graph on the UK polling page, so I should hopefully be able to keep it up for this article too! Ralbegen (talk) 21:07, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Endorsements

Could the article do with an "Endorsements" section or subsection? SK2242 (talk) 18:18, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

WP:ENDORSERFC tells us that to be included in an endorsements list, an endorsement has to be from somebody with a Wikipedia article and unambiguously covered by an independent reliable source. So far the only endorsements I've come across meriting inclusion are Farage and Dua Lipa, which fit sensibly by themselves in prose. If you know of many more then I think an endorsements section would be a sensible way to go, and I suspect that even if we're not there now that there may be a tipping point that will be reached in the next week or so. Ralbegen (talk) 18:35, 26 April 2021 (UTC)