Talk:2021 New Zealand National League

Central League Qualifiers

The article should place 'Q's on the Central League table to indicate that Miramar Rangers and Wellington Olympic have secured two of the three available qualifying spots from the Central Region for the National League.

There should also be a synopsis of the NZF Memorandum which states "The Wellington Phoenix FC will be granted an automatic spot in the championship phase to support the youth development of the professional club and fulfil their A-League licence obligations. The Wellington Phoenix FC will need to hold a partnership with a club affiliated to a member federation through a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), approved by the federation and NZF, with the purpose of delivering on Club Licensing requirements of the NLS. This would allow the club to play within the conference system on the proviso the partner club could not also qualify for the championship phase." That club is Lower Hutt City but this is not currently mentioned and anyone reading the Wikipedia article would not know that, if Lower Hutt City remain in their current third spot, then the fourth placed side would qualify.

Tartankiwi (talk) 07:41, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Kia ora @Tartankiwi: thank you for your suggestions, do you have the reference for the Lower Hutt informaiton, I know that is how it works but didn't have a reference to be able to show that information so can't write it up without one. Wasn't sure if Rangers and Olympic had qualified yet but assume that would be the case now with only four weeks to go as well.— NZFC^(talk)(cont) 08:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi I clicked on the 1st reference at the bottom of the article page (New National League System) which took me to the memorandum. The wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Hutt_City_AFC refers to LHC as a 'farm team' to the Wellington Phoenix. The article http://www.wpfa.org.nz/players-and-staff/u20-ispshandaprem/ on the Phoenix website says "Late in 2020 New Zealand Football announced a change to the National and Regional structures. From March 2021 the Reserve Team will compete in the Central League (as Lower Hutt City AFC) and then continue to receive a guaranteed spot in the new Tier 1 NLS competition from August to November playing as (Wellington Phoenix Reserves)."

Re the qualificaton the max points that teams outisde the top three can reach are Wests (34), Wairarapa (31), Napier City Rovers (29), Waterside Karori (30), North Wellington (27) which means that they cannot catch Miramar Rangers (currently 36) and Wellington Olympic (currently 35).

Thanks again, found that and hadn't realised it was in there. Just updating page now— NZFC^(talk)(cont) 08:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Flags against players

Kia ora @Mrsmiis: that was supposed to be WP:SSE sorry. I get where you are coming from but being realistic, the league isn't at the same level and doesn't have to be like the other articles. We may know that information is correct but it isn't sourced, the A-League page instead, you can click on the player and see that is the case by going to the players article because they get one. Its a professional league that has professional players brought in, the NZ league is supposed to be amateur and those players aren't representing their country. Lastly, like why I'm also not a fan of squad lists in amateur club articles, flags are prone to vandalism especially if you have something like kept happening with Ross Allen on Team Wellington page, flag kept changing between Guernsey and English and he didn't have his own article to link too. — NZFC^(talk)(cont) 04:25, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you @NZFC: for the explanation! Noted. Mrsmiis (talk) 07:11, 28 July 2021 (UTC)