Talk:2021 in Vatican City

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because... (This article uses text from Portal:Current Events, so if this there's copyrighted material on here, we may need to go back over the 2021 month pages. I've also made adjustments to the text, one of the links is claiming the term 'vatican city state' as the reason for the detection, which seems a bit ridiculous.) --Thief-River-Faller (talk) 13:35, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

User:Johnson524 User:Jmertel23 User:Hughesdarren, you've all reviewed my past 'year in' articles, this was created in the same way, bringing over text from Current Events, are we really using Copyrighted text in the Current Events portal? Thief-River-Faller (talk) 13:38, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

I've gone through the entire article and adjusted the text, there should be no issues as it now stands (double checked using the Duplicate Detector. Thief-River-Faller (talk) 13:58, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

If the text no longer violates copyright which you claim that it does, it should be fine. Thank you for creating the article! Johnson524 (Talk!) 14:01, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Johnson524, I don't think it's fine at all: even after the cosmetic copy-editing, the text apparently still violates the copyright of at least six different web pages, and is now listed at WP:CP for investigation. Thief-River-Faller, if you found this content somewhere else in Wikipedia, please state exactly where that was so that that too can be cleaned up. Oh, and I don't see where you have provided attribution for the content you copied. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: I have done no copy edit detecting myself, I just restated that if the text longer contains copyrighted information like Thief-River-Faller claimed it longer does in the comment above, the article would be ok with that being the main problem. Johnson524 (Talk!) 14:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

All found here, if you do a search for the term 'Vatican' you'll find the text, although I've since made changes to this page:

Portal:Current events/January 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/February 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/March 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/May 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/June 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/July 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/August 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/September 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/October 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/November 2021 - Wikipedia

Portal:Current events/December 2021 - Wikipedia Thief-River-Faller (talk) 14:19, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Found at least one editor who is responsible for a copyvio it seems, User:JoeNMLC, an experienced editor (41000 edits) and a regular at these current events and year in pages. This may be another CCI and lengthy cleanup process. Fram (talk) 14:23, 13 September 2022 (UTC) E.g. here, more examples available. Fram (talk) 14:26, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Fram, I found the same diff; the next one I looked at led me here – same editor. But looking at another page that he's edited I found this, apparently unrelated. Busy now, but will look further later today if you don't beat me to it. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 15:21, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay, that editor "only" has some 12,000 edits, but looking at e.g. Old Town Hall of Timișoara, it looks to have copyright violations (straight translations) from e.g. [1], so it looks as if this already may lead to two CCIs, plus a thorough check of the Portal Current Event pages to see if there is more from other editors. What a mess. Fram (talk) 15:29, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

The investigation part may take longer to both investigate and process at CCI; CP listing I'll try to clean up sometime in the next few days, as it looks like there's a rewrite on the temp page. Sennecaster (Chat) 18:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with this @Sennecaster, hopefully my rewrite is up to scratch. Thief-River-Faller (talk) 20:39, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Thief-River-Faller, I've moved your rewrite into place, over-writing the previous version of the page – thank you! It was very nearly 100% OK, I made a couple of minor adjustments. You will find this tool invaluable for identifying inadvertent copying of a source. Just one question: the page seems to be written in the simple present, a tense reserved for habitual or continued actions/states ("I'm French but I live in Rome; I take the bus to work"). These events are in the past; why aren't they described in the simple past tense, as is usual for events in the past that are not still continuing in the present? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2021-01/vatican-museums-reopening-february-barbara-jatta.html https://www.reuters.com/article/vatican-australia-idINKBN29C1PV https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/246311/cardinal-parolin-brings-message-of-peace-and-reconciliation-to-cameroon https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2021-10/pope-francis-india-prime-minister-modi-meeting.html https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/switzerland-marks-centenary-of-diplomatic-relations-with-holy-see/47093520 https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2021-03/pope-on-paraguay-may-dialogue-prevail-over-violence.html https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=49877. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)

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