Talk:2022 New York State Senate election

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"2022 who filed" should not be a valid source. Any concensus? You have to click a million buttons to find the name of the candidate, the linked source doesn't actually contain the information. GeorgeBailey (talk) 16:29, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

So- two things:

1- State BOE only oversees elections which cross county lines. So some of them don't come up because BOE doesn't take in that information. You have to get it from the appropriate county or NYC BOEs.

2- I received a PDF version of the page via a FOIL request that does have complete information all in one place, but it also has candidates' addresses so I'm not sure I'd just want to upload it straight. Same with the NYC BOE.

The State BOE database does let you produce a CSV listing everyone in one place. I don't know Wikipedia rules/guidelines-- is that a permissible solution?

I'm reluctant to say we should rule out the NYS Board of Elections as a source here since it is supposed to be the authoritative source-- it just has a miserable database. Bartletforamerica98 (talk) 05:36, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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Infobox map

In the infobox there are a few districts that have the wrong party marked as the incumbent. I’m not sure how to fix it but here are the issues:

-Districts 4 & 8 on Long Island are swapped, 4 should be democratic & 8 Republican.

-Districts 47 & 59 in NYC should both be democratic. 47’s incumbent is Brad Hoyleman, a democrat.

-Districts 48 & 53 are swapped, 48 should be democratic & 53 Republican.

-District 41’s (Hudson Valley) incumbent is Michelle Hinchey, a democrat.

-Districts 60 & 61 in Erie County are swapped, 60 should be Republican & 61 democratic. Stormy160 (talk) 23:56, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

One more thing, it’s pretty obvious that water precincts are present on the map, if there’s a way to edit those out that would be great. Stormy160 (talk) 23:57, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@GeorgeBailey: you seem to be the one who made the map which means you know how to edit it, would appreciate your help. Stormy160 (talk) 00:09, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@Stormy160: The incumbency is based on who is the incumbent representative of the district. Even though district 47 will include parts of Manhattan once the next terms start in 2023, and a democrat who is currently a member of the state senate is running to represent the district, if you look at New York's 47th State Senate district, the incumbent representative is a republican, so the 47th district will be labeled as having a republican incumbent on the map, even if the district is in another place. I hope that explanation makes sense. This is also why I have put the second table below the first in the senate races part of this article. Also, I will work on removing the water area out of the map! Good idea, and I'll get on it. GeorgeBailey (talk) 01:39, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

@GeorgeBailey: Thanks for the reply! That explanation makes sense but it’s just wrong, particularly in the case of districts 47/59 in NYC. Zero parts of either district are represented by a Republican, these are some of the most democratic areas in the country so it’s just kinda silly looking. The number shouldn’t matter. And the 47th is pretty much exactly the same as the current iteration of the district and it has an incumbent, I don’t see why it wouldn’t be shaded blue.

Glad I could be of help with the water precincts. Stormy160 (talk) 07:25, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I think the problem with going by district number is that it's A- Inconsistent with how the table treats incumbents, and B- not really reflective of the political situation in the district (which is why I took the time to reconfigure the table). I don't know how to create/change the map in the infobox, but I would treat it sort of like this map did on pre-election versions of the [United States House of Representatives elections&oldid=516519155|2012 US House election] page.

So basically the open seats (3, 4, 17, 39, 43, and 59) would be grayed out, the seats with two incumbents of different parties (2, 41, 42, and 61) would be purple, and the rest would be the color of whatever incumbent currently holds the seat.

So in terms of changes: --2 (Mattera/Gaughran) should be purple

--3 (no incumbent) should be gray

--4 (no incumbent) should be gray

--8 (Weik/Boyle) should be red

--17 (no incumbent) should be gray

--39 (no incumbent) should be gray

--41 (Hinchey/Serino) should be purple

--42 (Skoufis/Martucci) should be purple

--43 (no incumbent) should be gray

--44 (Jordan/Tedisco) should be red

--47 (Hoylman) should be blue

--48 (May) should be blue

--53 (Griffo) should be red

--59 (no incumbent) should be gray

--60 (Gallivan) should be red

--61 (Ryan/Rath) should be purple

This is consistent with the table, which is consistent with how Wikipedia generally handles incumbency during redistricting years (see 2012 US House election) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartletforamerica98 (talk • contribs) 15:22, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Lol wait why am I citing 2012- we have 2022 right here. 2022 United States House of Representatives elections Bartletforamerica98 (talk) 16:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Martucci is retiring, so 42 should be blue. Stormy160 (talk) 18:16, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

No, it's not based on whether they're running. It's based on where they're drawn into. Bartletforamerica98 (talk) 22:27, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Now that the election is over, there's no reason to revert the Infobox map to the district number-based key that we already agreed to not use. The map should use the incumbent-based system we discussed above.

Based on current counts, these are the changes that should be made to the previously agreed upon map:

2- R Hold (Mattera won re-election, Gaughran retired)

3- R Gain (Murray won the open seat)

4- D Gain (Martinez won the open seat)

7- R Gain (Martins defeated Kaplan)

9- R Gain (Canzoneri-Fitzpatrick won Kaminsky's seat)

17- D Gain (Chu won the open seat)

38- R Gain (Weber defeated Reichlin-Melnick)

39- R Gain (Rolison won the open seat)

41- D Hold (Hinchey defeated Serino)

42- D Hold (Skoufis won re-election, Mattera retired)

43- R Gain (Ashby won the open seat)

50- R Gain (Shiroff defeated Mannion)

52- D Gain (Webb won Akshar's seat)

59- D Gain (Gonzalez won the open seat)

61- D Hold (Ryan defeated Rath) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartletforamerica98 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

The Charts

With all the primary ballots fixed, it would be a good idea to redo the whole thing, as they're all speculative. Notwisconsin (talk) 13:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Infographic map is inaccurate

The 40th district (northern Westchester/eastern Putnam) is a dem hold, but is marked as a Republican gain. Also seems silly to mark the two new dem seats in NYC as gains since the territory was entirely held by democrats beforehand. The numbering of the districts doesn’t matter, some seats (such as Syracuse/Utica) were renumbered but cover mostly the same territory and have the same incumbents. They should be marked as holds. Stormy160 (talk) 18:55, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

47 should not be marked as new because Hoylman won reelection to the seat that was newly numbered, but not new. The actual new seats with no incumbent were 17 (Chu) and 59 (Gonzalez). Those two should be colored as gains. Bartletforamerica98 (talk) 19:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)