Talk:2023–24 Real Madrid CF season

Renewals

I think it makes more sense to post the new renewals on this page, and not on the 2022-23 Season's, since all these renewals are made for the next season, not the past Leprazoori (talk) 11:55, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

I disagree as the last season covers the period until 30 June (same with the departures). It could be mentioned in prose here of course. Kante4 (talk) 12:36, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Kit patterns

How to add/make kit patterns? Away kit has been released for a few days 2601:249:1880:A80:1802:6F47:8F20:7D81 (talk) 02:58, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Penalty shootout to determinate winner

I don't intend to start an edit war. My modifications are based on current and official regulations. See IFAB rules 23/24 (p. 87): https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/laws-of-the-game-2023-24?l=en

Extra time and penalty shootouts are an extension of the match due to the fact that there was no winner in 90m. The referee cannot declare the end of the match until there is a winner in it. In the penalty shoot-out, the players who have contested the regulation time take part and players outside of this cannot participate. Also, looking at most sports chronicles, there is a tendency to say that the match was won in penalty shootout or after penalty shootout. The rules of the game are clear. Pròssia (talk) 16:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Question: Why was the Copa del Rey match played on 18 January 2024 versus Atlético Madrid declared lost due to the extra time? Is extra time different from a penalty shootout? No. They are simply extensions of the same match. Pròssia (talk) 16:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Pròssia: It says "Penalties (penalty shoot-out) are taken after the match has ended and unless otherwise stated". Kante4 (talk) 16:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

The game ends once the penalties have been taken. It cannot end earlier because there is no winner. I think the logic is pretty clear. Pròssia (talk) 16:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Kante4: The rules are very clear, you should read it: When competition rules require a winning team after a home-and-away tie, the only permitted procedures to determinate a winning team are:

- away goals rule

- extra time

- penalties

A combination may be used.

UEFA decided to eliminate away goals and could perfectly determine penalties after 90m. without doing extra time. They are all ways to end the game. Each competition chooses its own. Pròssia (talk) 17:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Oficial rules of the game: https://www.theifab.com/laws-of-the-game-documents/?language=all&year=2023%2F24 Pròssia (talk) 17:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Pròssia: Please open a discussion here so more football editors can join in. Until then, the page should stay as it is per WP:STATUSQUO. Kante4 (talk) 17:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Please see here for the opened discussion. Kante4 (talk) 17:40, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @Kante4:. Pròssia (talk) 18:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Stating home/away in the biggest wins/defeats

I think it's essential to add either (H) or (A) after the result to identify the match, because Madrid plays at least 2 games with each La Liga team in the season. Leprazoori (talk) 23:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

For me that's trivia information and can be found quickly when scroling down if anyone wants to know. It just clutters the infobox a bit more which is not needed. When they win at the CdR or UCL with the same margin, do we add LL, CL or CdR also after the H/A? Kante4 (talk) 07:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Agree on that now. Thanks for your answer! Leprazoori (talk) 12:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Well, why scroll down when it can just be seen in the infobox? Does one letter really clutter it that much? Also, competition type is indeed trivia information, while home/away gives better context about the result as, after all, the advantage of playing at home and the respective disadvantage of playing away is a thing in football. Shika99bul (talk) 13:47, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

I do not see the need for that or what improvement that makes. If we do that, where we draw the line (as said above)? Kante4 (talk) 15:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Why enforce ambiguity? 5–0 home win is not the same as 5–0 away win (for example). Another example - whether it's easier to play in a cold rainy night at Stoke (2nd division) or at Manchester City's stadium (Premiership or CL) is debatable - therefore competition type is not so relevant. However, everyone would agree it's easier to play any of these opponents at home. Home advantage exists for a reason, so why ignore it? Shika99bul (talk) 16:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)