Talk:Uttarakhand tunnel rescue
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Article title
editAs per e.g. Tham Luang cave rescue, should the title be changed to 2023 Uttarakhand tunnel rescue? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, the article and the event mainly focuses on rescue. Leoneix (talk) 16:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Rat-hole mining
editThis article, and several others, reference the "rat-hole" mining technique. I think we ought to have an article on that. Nø (talk) 08:42, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- yeah, i was surprised to find no article about it. Leoneix (talk) 13:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Why is this article biased?
editReferring to the crew members as just "workers" is a clear violation of WP:CASTE remedies and reaffirms caste-based discrimination. Even if the miners were Dalits or from an untouchable caste, this article should not refer to them with this coded language. Even if they’re the lowest caste on the spectrum (manual scavengers), the article should be neutral in the language used. Does not matter if they are in India, this is a national story. 2605:8D80:407:1C65:3872:CAB1:D0F7:2357 (talk) 14:34, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- We are using workers as a neutral term. All 41 of them were not miners so it can't be used. Also workers does not discriminate according to the Indian caste system and is used widely by online reliable published sources. Leoneix (talk) 03:37, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- As more info becomes available, a breakdown of the rescued personnel should be included: engineers, foremen, special skilled machine operators, other miners, helpers, etc.71.230.16.111 (talk) 07:39, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Details needed
editThe headline-news media had more information about the details of the rescue (size of shafts, etc) than this article. Some photos showed a vertical shaft (thru rock? likely a boring machine) not from an auger going thru the collapsed rubble. Brand/supplier of machines? Geologic conditions in mountain?71.230.16.111 (talk) 07:48, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Expected to be added soon. Leoneix (talk) 11:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Done Leoneix (talk) 13:43, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your ongoing efforts, but I am still confused by this article. If 200 meters from the entrance is the begining, what was the extent of the collapse, and what was the total tunnel length completed prior to the collapse? When were the 3 small pipes inserted or drilled and in what directions? "Two tunnel boring machines with an auger bit" doesn't make sense; the TBM article doesn't mention a type that is followed by an auger bit, which in moderate size is usually an alternate method for vertical shafts into softer ground or horizontally in soft self-supporting layers like chalk or coal. Was the auger for the 6" shaft? Was the vertical shaft finished/used?71.230.16.111 (talk) 23:32, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Total length of the tunnel in mentioned in the construction section. And vertical drilling was not completed and the same is noted in the article while providing details about the final extent of drilling. Regarding other concerns, I have to take a look in sources. Leoneix (talk) 03:36, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Never found the length of the completed section, but found the length of the collapse, which was more important. Thanks again.71.230.16.111 (talk) 03:39, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Leoneix (talk) 04:41, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
The tunnel is planned to be 4.5 kilometres (2.8 mi) long
- Thanks for your ongoing efforts, but I am still confused by this article. If 200 meters from the entrance is the begining, what was the extent of the collapse, and what was the total tunnel length completed prior to the collapse? When were the 3 small pipes inserted or drilled and in what directions? "Two tunnel boring machines with an auger bit" doesn't make sense; the TBM article doesn't mention a type that is followed by an auger bit, which in moderate size is usually an alternate method for vertical shafts into softer ground or horizontally in soft self-supporting layers like chalk or coal. Was the auger for the 6" shaft? Was the vertical shaft finished/used?71.230.16.111 (talk) 23:32, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
