Talk:2024–25 NHL suspensions and fines

Latest comment: 4 months ago by Uncleben85 in topic Nichushkin totals/math

Nichushkin totals/math

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@Uncleben85, I attempted to calculate the exact cash total/missed games of Nichushkin's suspension now that the season schedule is out - mind taking a look? The Kip (contribs) 19:35, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@The Kip Don't mind at all! Off-ice suspensions are calculated differently than on-ice, so it should actually be a different number. I feel like it's been a while since I've done one of these, so let me know if this makes sense:
From CBA 18-A.2,
"For the purpose of calculating compensation forfeited due to a suspension under this Article, the Player will forfeit all Paragraph 1 NHL Salary and Bonuses, but not Performance Bonuses, commencing on the effective date of the suspension through the completion of the last game or date of the suspension, inclusive of all intervening days.
Nichushkin was suspended for 6 months on May 14, 2024, which means he is not available until November 14, 2024. As NHL players are not paid Paragraph 1 Salary during the playoffs or off-season, Nichushkin only actually forfeits his salary from the 2024-25 season. The 2024-25 season officially begins on October 4, 2024, so he is forfeiting his daily pay, everyday, from October 4, 2024 until November 14, 2024, which is 42 days, inclusive. With 185 days in the 2024-25 season, and an AAV (which is what the CBA says to use) of $6,125,000 that would give Nichushkin a daily pay rate of $33,108.10,8 and a total forfeiture of approximately $1,390,540.54. ie.,
($6,125,000 / 185 days) x 42 days = $1,390,540.54
Does that make sense?--–uncleben85 (talk) 19:34, 18 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Incongruous fines

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As per the NHL CBA, 18.7 Fines. (b), A fine may be in an amount up to 50% of a player's (averaged) salary, divided by the number of days in the regular season, but in no event may it exceed $10,000 for a first offence (or $15,000 for any subsequent fine within the rolling year). With that said, the NHL then goes on to contradict itself by publishing articles such as the article announcing Oliver Ekman-Larsson's fine (here), wherein they say Ekman-Larsson was fined the "maximum allowable under the Collective Bargaining Agreement", $5,000. $5,000 is the maximum the League can hand out without having to offer a telephone hearing (CBA 18.7 (d)).

The following notes the players listed as maximum fines, alongside what their true maximum should be:

Offender Date of action Incongruity
Oliver Ekman-Larsson October 22, 2024 $5,000.00 vs. $9,114.58
Garnet Hathaway October 27, 2024 $5,000.00 vs. $6,184.90
Rasmus Dahlin October 29, 2024 $5,000.00 vs. $10,000.00
Neal Pionk November 17, 2024 $5,000.00 vs. $10,000.00
Nikita Zadorov November 30, 2024 $5,000.00 vs. $13,020.83
Evgeni Malkin November 30, 2024 $5,000.00 vs. $10,000.00
Total: $30,000.00 vs. $58,320.31