Talk:2024 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup

Orphaned references in 2023 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of 2023 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "regulations":

• From 2021 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup: "Regulations – FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Russia 2021" (PDF).
• From 2015 AFC Beach Soccer Championship: "AFC Beach Soccer Championship 2015 Qatar Regulations" (PDF). AFC. Archived from the original (PDF) on 25 April 2015.
• From Africa Beach Soccer Cup of Nations: "Regulations of the African Beach Soccer Championship" (PDF). Confédération Africaine de Football. Retrieved 31 March 2015.
• From 2017 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup squads: "Regulations – FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Bahamas 2017" (PDF). FIFA.com. Archived from the original (PDF) on March 1, 2017.
• From 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup: "Regulations: FIFA Women's World Cup Australia & New Zealand 2023" (PDF). FIFA. Retrieved 14 December 2022.
• From CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship: "CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship 2017 Regulations". CONCACAF. 2017. Archived from the original on 15 February 2018. Retrieved 12 February 2018.
• From 2017 CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship: "CONCACAF Beach Soccer Championship 2017 Regulations" (PDF). CONCACAF.com. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2017-02-22. Retrieved 2017-02-21.
• From 2017 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup: "Regulations – FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Bahamas 2017" (PDF). FIFA.com. Archived from the original (PDF) on 1 March 2017.
• From 2017 AFC Beach Soccer Championship: "AFC Beach Soccer Championship 2017 Competition Regulations". AFC. Archived from the original on 1 March 2018.
• From 2015 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup: "Regulations – FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Portugal 2015" (PDF). FIFA.com. Archived from the original (PDF) on 23 January 2015.
• From 2016 Africa Beach Soccer Cup of Nations: "Regulations of the African Beach Soccer Championship" (PDF). Confédération Africaine de Football. Retrieved 31 March 2015.
• From 2019 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup squads: "Regulations – FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Paraguay 2019" (PDF).
• From 2013 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup: "Regulations – FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup 2013" (PDF). FIFA.com. Archived from the original (PDF) on 14 May 2013.
• From 2022 Africa Beach Soccer Cup of Nations: "Regulations of the African Beach Soccer Championship" (PDF). Confédération Africaine de Football. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2018-08-17. Retrieved 5 March 2021.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:14, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Infobox title count

@Gsfelipe94

The FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup is the successor championship to the Beach Soccer World Championships as the competition which determines the world champions of beach soccer. This is comparable to how the English Premier League succeeded the Football League First Division in crowning English football league champions or how the German Bundesliga succeeded the Oberliga in crowning German football league champions. The title "count" in the FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup articles follows the precedent that is well established and long accepted with each, for example, Premier League and Bundesliga season article. For example, in the 2014–15 Premier League season, won by Chelsea, the infobox reads as:

Champions
Chelsea
4th Premier League title
5th English title

Thus, the champions parameter in the infoboxes of each FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup article should adhere to this precedent. TurboGUY (talk) 23:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

@Guyrichtheman

Hi. As per your recent edits to the FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup articles, please see the above explanation. All the best, TurboGUY (talk) 11:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

In the website, FIFA said that Brazil won the World Cup 6 times but not 15 times because of the tournament that contains the name "FIFA" on it. They will give Brazil 6 stars instead of 15 stars, just like Portugal, FIFA gave them 2 stars instead of 3 stars. Guyrichtheman (talk) 11:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I understand your point. You are not incorrect, however there is a much broader picture to consider. I refer you to, for example, when Liverpool won the 2019–20 Premier League - it was their first Premier League title and thus the Premier League referred to it as such (for example see: https://www.premierleague.com/news/1698704), and Liverpool are only listed as one-time champions on the Premier League website here: https://www.premierleague.com/history/season-reviews. However, this was Liverpool's 19th top-flight English league title when considering the predecessor competition, the Football League First Division, prior to 1992. Therefore, as per the 2019–20 Premier League season article, the infobox reads as:

Champions

Liverpool

1st Premier League title

19th English title

Many media outlets at the time reported it as Liverpool's 19th league title, such as: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53183857 and https://talksport.com/football/722362/liverpool-win-premier-league-champions-30-years-title/.

Similarly, media outlets are also reporting on Brazil's win yesterday as their 15th world title in beach soccer, such as: https://newsunrolled.com/sports/361628.html?amp=1 and https://www.lance.com.br/mais-esportes/quais-sao-os-maiores-campeoes-da-copa-do-mundo-de-futebol-de-areia.html

Thus, the most appropriate procedure here is to follow the precedent set by the Premier League articles (and other similar).

It is also important to consider the ledes of both families of articles. The 2019–20 Premier League lede reads as: "The 2019–20 Premier League was the 28th season of the Premier League, the top English professional football league, since its establishment in 1992, and the 121st season of top-flight English football overall." The lede for the 2024 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup follows a similar format: "The 2024 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup was the 12th edition of the FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup, the premier international beach soccer championship contested by men's national teams of the member associations of FIFA. Overall, this was the 22nd edition of a world cup in beach soccer since the establishment of the Beach Soccer World Championships which ran from 1995 to 2004 but which was not governed by FIFA." Both articles refer to both the past and present iterations of it's champion-determining competition and thus the infoboxes of both should reflect this. TurboGUY (talk) 14:28, 26 February 2024 (UTC)