Talk:2024 Major League Baseball uniform controversy

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 11:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that one Baltimore Orioles player compared the 2024 MLB jerseys to knockoffs from TJ Maxx? Source: "one veteran position player said, “but the look of it is like a knockoff jersey from T.J.Maxx." https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/orioles-mlb/orioles-players-slam-new-mlb-jerseys-like-a-knockoff-jersey-from-tj-maxx-DEXUP34CLNFNNEW3AMES56G6U4/
  • ALT1: ... that the 2024 MLB uniforms have been criticized as looking cheap with see-through pants? Source: "what they deems “cheaper”-looking material. But now, with spring training officially underway, fans are pointing out another issue. “The pants of the new MLB unis for 2024 appear to be … somewhat see-through?”" https://www.kron4.com/news/national/i-see-london-i-see-france-mlb-fans-point-out-new-issue-with-already-scrutinized-uniforms/
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Moved to mainspace by Utopes (talk). Nominated by BullDawg2021 (talk) at 03:00, 4 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2024 MLB jersey controversy; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Not a review, and I prefer to do my QPQs oldest first so would not get to this anytime soon (but would not object to any other editor reviewing it in the meantime); suggest changing 'new' to '2024' per WP:DYKHOOK (it won't always be new).--Launchballer 10:04, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

I see this has been done. Full review needed.--Launchballer 13:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

• This isn't a review, but if I were to pick a hook, I'd choose the second one as it seems more surprising but also because it makes sense even to those unfamiliar with the artist mentioned in ALT0. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

TJ Maxx is a discount department store, known in my parts as TK Maxx, but I agree that ALT1 is more interesting. I'd write "Major League Baseball" out though.--Launchballer 16:44, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - There are four citations to generally unreliable sources: 3 New York Post, 1 Sportskeeda. The Battifarano article is redundant with the Morik article, and so can just be cut. The Acuña quote, sourced to the Post, could be sourced to The Philadelphia Inquirer instead. The Inquirer, unlike the Post, makes clear that that Acuña quote is from an MLB press release; this article should too. Better sources also exist for the Ohtani sentence, like this NPR article. This already-cited Sporting News article suffices for Raleigh.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - The lede says that the uniforms are produced by Fanatics, but the body says that according to Manfred they're produced by Nike. Which is it?

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - ALT0 is fine. ALT1 (which I've tweaked slightly, correcting "MLB jerseys" to "MLB uniforms") is not fully verified by the cited source, which doesn't call the jersey cheap-looking. The article does make that claim, adequately sourced to [1], but it doesn't really put the cheapness in wikivoice; it's implied to be the position of the critical fans. So, if ALT1's supporters (Launchballer, Narutolovehinata5) want to go forward with that, it will need rewording to convey the more subjective nature of the jersey criticism. Changing from a "controversy and criticism due to" formulation to a "criticized as" one might do the trick.
• Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: 3rd QPQ-exempt nomination. Overall, an interesting article, but needs some work on its sourcing. Neutral enough despite being about a controversy, and avoids any BLP issues. @BullDawg2021: Please see above. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 18:31, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

@Tamzin: I have gone back and redone the references in those spots. I have also clarified the quote from Manfred and added that Acuña's quote came from an MLB press release. I have also reworded and changed the source for ALT1. Thank you for your feedback. BullDawg2021 (talk) 20:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing my concerns. with no preference between hooks. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 03:20, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Aftermath?

With the MLBPA admitting that new jerseys will be made by the start of the 2025 season at the latest, should the third paragraph in the controversy section instead start a new section named aftermath (or something like that)? TarheelBornBred (talk) 00:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

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