Talk:2024 Nigeria Prize for Literature

Notability

Hi @SafariScribe - as part of NPP I tagged this article for notability issues. I certainly agree the award itself is notable, but there is no inherited notability for each individual year's award, unless there is reliable sourcing to satisfy WP:EVENT, and even if there was, WP:NOPAGE needs to be considered. I do not see sourcing at present in the article that establishes this year's award as satisfying WP:EVENT. If you have further sourcing, please post here so we can discuss. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 02:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn, The 2024 NPL is the 20th instalment (?) and it has coverages like these two in most Nigerian newspapers.

• Braide, Damiete (13 July 2024). "Two decades of literary excellence: The Nigeria Prize for Literature and its impact on Nigerian writers". The Sun.
• Sam-Duru, Prisca (23 April 2024). "Nigeria Prize for Literature: Celebrating 20 years of excellence". Vanguard.

The finalists were announced some few hours or days ago and so it’s all over the web and so, it’s hard to get to the actual analysis. This event has garnered coverage from its announcement for entry, selection, longlist and finalists. Moreso, if this doesn’t generate more attention in few months or the next coming year, then I think it could fail criteria for events; which I highly doubt it would by the way. Do let me know what you think and thank you for taking a look. Best, Reading Beans 05:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn Bump! Reading Beans 03:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Reading Beans I do not really see how these sources establish the *enduring* effect of this year's award (they do speak of the effect of the award in general, but not this year's one). Certainly an author being included in the short-list is worthy of inclusion on an author's page, but that does not make anything special about the 2024 in and of itself. Both pieces from The Vanguard and The Sun are reproducing material from the same press release. There's nothing in those articles themselves that indidate any specific, separate notability for 2024. The only unique fact I can see is it is running for 20 years, but this by itself is not reason for a stand alone article. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 07:17, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn, no. I disagree that these two sources are the same. Running for 20 years by itself is what is creating the buzz that you cannot see it. As I stated above, if the next coming months or year, this doesn’t get enough analysis, I’d be willing to redirect to the NPL page myself. But of course, I’m not opposing you taking it to WP:AFD if that’s what you want. Best, Reading Beans 07:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Reading Beans I didn't say the sources are the same, I said they are reproducing material related to the same event. In notability terms, 10 articles reporting an event is not qualitatively different than two articles reporting the same event. Just because there is news coverage of a contemporary event, "buzz" does not equal enduring effect, NB WP:RECENTISM (notwithstanding the unquantifiability of "buzz"). This article should be redirected/merged to Nigeria Prize for Literature and a separate article created for List of Nigeria Prize for Literature winners. The principle is that *if* at a latter point in time the 2024 event becomes recognised as having had an eduring effect, then that is the point when the article should be created, not creating first and waiting to see whether it becomes notable. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:27, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I have made contributions to notability of this article

I noticed this article and I do believe it merits a standalone page. I have made some significant contributions by citing sources and writing additional content. Maybe we can loop in past years' competitions by providing a paragraph that talks about the past years, winners, and maybe have a link to a list of previous winners. Just to make sure we expand this. All the best Cfaso2000 (talk) 21:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Nigeria Prize for Literature already exists; there does not appear to be sourcing to suggest 2024 is notable in and of itself. My suggestion would be to expand that page and fork out a separate list article for annual winners and short-listed writers. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 07:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn, this suggestion, meets WP:NLIST, yes? If yes, then I’d be fork out a separate list as you’ve suggested. Best, Reading Beans 07:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Reading Beans to me, List of Nigeria Prize for Literature winners indubitably satisfies WP:NLIST and would be a more than reasonable WP:OKFORK of Nigeria Prize for Literature:

• Diala, Isidore. "The Nigeria Prize for Literature and Current Nigerian Writing: Politics, Process, and Price of Literary Legitimation." Research in African Literatures, vol. 51 no. 4, 2020, p. 36-65 [1]
• Suhr-Sytsma, Nathan. "The Geography of Prestige: Prizes, Nigerian Writers, and World Literature." ELH, vol. 85 no. 4, 2018, p. 1093-1122. [2]
• "Literary prizes belong to the power structure: Elnathan John chats with Isidore Diala" Journal of the African Literature Association, 2020 [3]

Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC)