Talk:40 (song)

Quotation marks

"40" was so titled, with double quotation marks, on the War album, Under a Blood Red Sky, the single cover whose image is shown here, etc. I have moved the name of the article accordingly, and fixed all the links to it to be direct ones.

Given this, together with the WP guidance to refer to songs using double quotation marks, together with the normal usage of quotes within quotes becoming single quotation marks, refer to the song as "'40'" (that's "-'-4-0-'-" if you can't see it clearly) in this article and in the other U2 articles. But this is hard to visually parse in many fonts, and seems a long way to go. It's better, to me at least, to leave references to the simple "40". Wasted Time R 21:30, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

dc Talk cover

dc Talk covered this song and put it on their Solo CD. It was the only song that had all their voices on it. It was also the only live recording on the album.--Chili14^{(Talk|Contribs)} 22:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Songwriter credit missing

What is the songwriter credit for this song? --83.253.36.136 18:13, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:U2 40.jpg

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40 u2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.243.81 (talk) 23:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Title

I have moved the song to it's actual title. Please keep it how it is now.--Das Ansehnlisch (talk) 17:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

And I've moved it back, please read WP:MUSTARD and WP:TM. Do not move again without gaining consensus. --JD554 (talk) 20:37, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Since when does consensus apply to a proper name? The promo single was released in Germany and has German language marking for a quotation. [1] [2] If you look on the releases of War or Under a Blood Red Sky and their associated promo releases you will see it titled as "40". [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] Allmusic.com has the quotation marks [11] and so does Pitchfork [12] If you look on the Japanses obi of War [13] or the Electrical Storm single that has a snippet of the song [14] or the dvd of the Chicago dates of the Vertigo tour [15] there are no quotation marks. It is almost as though the song was renamed for this decade, except that the remastered releases that have come after the Vertigo tour all contain the quotation marks. Given the errors and blatant omissions (where is the Vertigo Chicago DVD? [16]and a screenshot in case the website gets fixed [17]) on the current version of u2.com i am not considering it all that reliable these days. I would have to say the song should be written and the article titled as it was released, ""40"" ( "'''"40"'''") with quotation marks as part of the proper name and bolded with one set of quotation marks inside a second set of non-bold quotation marks at the beginning of the article.

To quote from WP:MUSTARD : The title of an article should be in bold text on first appearance in that article. The name should be in quotes or italics as appropriate, but quotes surrounding a title should not be in bold text, e.g, use "'''Hey Jude'''" not '''"Hey Jude"'''. That is great and all but Hey Jude was never released as "Hey Jude" so the example the guideline cites is not really relevant to this as the quotes are part of the title, meaning a second set of quotes is appropriate per MUSTARD. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 20:47, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Lyrics are also based on Psalm 6

According to Bono, in an introduction on 'Selections from the Book of Psalms' which you can find on , the chorus isn't based on Psalm 40, but on Psalm 6:3
"“40” became the closing song at U2 shows, and on hundreds of occasions, literally hundreds of thousands of people of every size and shape of T-shirt have shouted back the refrain, pinched from Psalm 6: “How long (to sing this song).” I had thought of it as a nagging question, pulling at the hem of an invisible deity whose presence we glimpse only when we act in love. How long hunger? How long hatred? How long until creation grows up and the chaos of its precocious, hell-bent adolescence has been discarded? I thought it odd that the vocalising of such questions could bring such comfort — to me, too."
So, the lyrics of the chorus are (also?) based on Psalm 6, not (only?) on Psalm 40, as stated in the article. Agree? Ikke1800 (talk) 20:52, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

References

Forty

In 2015 it passed forty years since the end of the Vietnam War, and treaties enumerating the disclosure of the actual causes of the Vietnam War were by treaty then to be disclosed. -Inowen (nlfte) 09:41, 4 February 2019 (UTC)