Talk:4 Park Avenue/GA1
Latest comment: 2 years ago by Mike Christie in topic GA Review
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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 13:03, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:03, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Images are appropriately tagged; sources are reliable.
- "an ice machine capable of generating up to 80 short tons (71 long tons; 73 t)": needs a time period to be meaningful: per day? Per year?
- "Each salon had a reproduction of a classical oil painting": the salons are part of the guest rooms?
- "An electric bell in each room allowed patrons to call for room service when they did not want to be disturbed": I don't follow. If they don't want to be disturbed, why are they calling room service?
- You mention Caruso as a patron twice.
-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:02, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Epicgenius, just checking you haven't forgotten about this one (and also 2 Park Avenue). Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:16, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, sorry about that. Thanks for reviewing both of these. I actually addressed these issues but just forgot to respond:
- The 80 short tons is the maximum amount that can be produced at one time.
- The problem is that an amount of production doesn't mean anything without a time period; "at one time" doesn't really help, since the only thing I think that can mean is one day, and that's implausible (it would require producing almost a litre of ice per second). 80 short tons of water or ice is a cube about 14 feet on a side, so it might mean that the capacity of the machine was that big -- I could imagine that the ice machines had that much water storage capacity. Capacity makes sense without a time period, whereas production doesn't. Does that seem to be what the sources are saying? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed, the sources say capacity (and this is what I was thinking of when I made that comment). I meant to say that the ice machine could produce and hold up to 80 tons at once (i.e. capacity), rather than produce up to 80 tons at any given moment (which would be quite impressive but far too large for a building of this size). Epicgenius (talk) 13:26, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- The problem is that an amount of production doesn't mean anything without a time period; "at one time" doesn't really help, since the only thing I think that can mean is one day, and that's implausible (it would require producing almost a litre of ice per second). 80 short tons of water or ice is a cube about 14 feet on a side, so it might mean that the capacity of the machine was that big -- I could imagine that the ice machines had that much water storage capacity. Capacity makes sense without a time period, whereas production doesn't. Does that seem to be what the sources are saying? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- The salons aren't part of the guest rooms, so I rephrased this.
- The electric bells were for patrons who didn't want to leave their rooms to get room service.
- "patrons who didn't want to leave their rooms" is even clearer than what you have in the article; how about using that wording? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- I do acknowledge that I mention Caruso as a patron twice (which is why I did not link his name the second time around). However, his name was mentioned the second time because "Caruso's death" is mentioned in the very next sentence. I have now removed the second mention.
- Looks like it's still there? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, forgot to do that. Done now. Epicgenius (talk) 13:26, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like it's still there? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- The 80 short tons is the maximum amount that can be produced at one time.
- – Epicgenius (talk) 12:39, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Replies above. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Pass. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:58, 2 September 2022 (UTC)