Talk:56 Beaver Street/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Nathan Obral (talk · contribs) 03:43, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Review in progress. I'm assisting Nathan on his first GAN review, so don't mind me popping up. My additions are marked with a 🦊 emoji. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:45, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Some minor changes here and there, which will probably be handled very quickly, but I'll still give a 7-day hold to Epicgenius (with or without the extra hour tonight haha). Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 03:44, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Copy changes

Lead

• Lead is overall sound and easy to understand, both in summary of the building, its design and the history. The third paragraph does a great job summarizing the history without getting too complicated or cumbersome.
• 🦊 After 56 Beaver Street was sold to the American Merchant Marine Insurance Company in 1917, the restaurant was closed and the building became an office structure known as the Merchant Marine House. Classic Commas in sentences here; add a comma after "closed"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Site

• It covers the eastern portion of city block bounded add "the" to "city block" (which I see has been corrected :) )
  • Yeah, it was an easy change, which I actually did before seeing the rest of this review. Epicgenius (talk) 15:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Architecture

• Cheek wall does not exist; was this in lieu of a page being created at a later date?
  • Yep. But I think "side wall" may be a better term. Epicgenius (talk) 15:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
    • No worries, I'd defer to you on your knowledge of the subject material. :) Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 18:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

History

• 🦊 Various members of the Delmonico family holding minority stakes in the corporation. Incomplete sentence
  • Whoops, I changed "holding" to "held" now. Epicgenius (talk) 15:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
    • Good deal, after Sammi pointed that out, that's that I thought was the case. Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 18:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
• 🦊 By early 1919, there were so many marine insurance companies at 56 Beaver Street, the American Merchant Marine Insurance Company purchased additional structures across the street to accommodate the additional demand. Replace the last comma with "that"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
• During the 1920s and 1930s the upper floors of 56 Beaver Street I'd be apt to include a comma after "1930s" and put that in :)
  • Yeah, that also seems like a reasonable change to me. Epicgenius (talk) 15:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Sourcing and spot checks

• I saw Earwig was already used for the DYK nom; ran it again, it passed easily.

For spot checks, 11 (10%) of the 109 references were selected at random. 9, 12, 24, 38, 39, 50, 59, 70, 89, 96, 101

• [9] — Link and archive works. Checks out.
• [12] — Must AGF, I do not have access to this book. WorldCat and ISBN numbers are correct.
• [24] — Link and archive works. Checks out.
• [38] — Must AGF, I do not have access to the NYT TimesMachine archive.
• [39] — Must AGF, I do not have access to the NYT TimesMachine archive.
• [50] — Link and archive works. Checks out.
• [59] — Must AGF, I do not have access to the NYT TimesMachine archive.
• [70] — Must AGF, I do not have access to this ProQuest publication.
• [89] — I do not have access to this ProQuest publication, but it was available on Newspapers.com. (part 1 and 2) Checks out.
• [96] — Link and archive works. Checks out.
• [101] — Link and archive works. Checks out.

• 🦊 I can view and checked out 38, 39, and 59. They are good. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:51, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Other items

• Add WP:ALT text to every image. Otherwise the images look good, well-source and don't have any CC conflicts.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 15:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
• Sourcing is well-placed and balanced throughout the article, book citations as well. Most non-ProQuest sources have been archived but it looks like some of the PDF refs haven't been yet? (Given the issues with IABot that's a very minor quibble.)
  • I'm not totally sure why IABot skipped these particular citations. Unfortunately, it looks like a fix for this particular issue may have to wait, at least until IABot is fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 15:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
    • I hear ya on IABot, crossing my fingers on it being fixed. Worse comes to worse, they could be manually archived on archive.org itself as it's not that much (we aren't talking hundreds of refs lol). Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 18:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

@Nathan Obral and Sammi Brie: Thank you both for your comments on this article. I think I've addressed all the issues that you have brought up. Epicgenius (talk) 15:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

• You're welcome, it's my first GAN and I appreciate Sammi Brie helping me break the ice. The page is good to go, if there's any issues, message me. Good work! Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 18:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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