Talk:5 (New York City Subway service)

5 trains via Seventh Avenue/West Side Line?

Should there be extra stations added that are served by the 5 train? After all, some trains operate via West Side Express, although it serves the stations limited rush hours in the peak direction. However, since they are not usually general orders, these extra stations should probably be added. Only stations that are served due to general orders shouldn't be added, and since 5 trains serve the West Side limited rush hours in the peak direction, the extra stations should be added. Need opinions!!! --imdanumber1 15:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I replied to a similar comment on 2 (New York City Subway service). I know of no citable source for 5 service on the west side, except as an occasional construction re-route or GO. And I don't think Wikipedia is the right place to describe those changes, unless they can be verified and are expected to be in place regularly, and for a long time. Marc Shepherd 15:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, trains that serve the West Side IRT aren't really GO's. Same thing for the 2 (New York City Subway service). --imdanumber1 17:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The Wikipedia standard is verifiability, based on reliable published sources. What's the citable source for this? An example would be the MTA website, the official subway map, the published timetable, a press release, a news story, or something like that.

By the way, I am not denying that 5 trains are sometimes seen on the west side, and that 2 trains are sometimes seen on the East side. I am merely suggesting the standard for when such things are sufficiently notable to belong in the articles. Marc Shepherd 17:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Well Marc, you're right about that. I will look around and until I find something about this matter the pages will stay the same. --imdanumber1 18:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Marc: Although 5 trains travel via West Side Express, it doesn't show it so on the online MTA map. Same thing for the 2 operationg East Side Express. Well, for both trains, they sometimes go to New Lots or Utica Avenues, but doesn't say so. Well, the way that the trains run decides what should be put on artcles, don't you think? --imdanumber1 17:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

If you look carefully at the MTA map, there is small print in the lower right-hand corner. Under the 2, it says, "some rush hour trips to/from New Lots Av, Brooklyn." Under the 5, it says, "some rush hour trips to/from Utica Av or New Lots Av, Brooklyn." There is no such small print indicating that 2 trains occasionally run on the East side, or that 5 trains occasionally run on the West Side. The link is "here" (PDF). (436 KiB).

For the record, I remain opposed to listing the Eastern Parkway Line stations beyond Franklin Avenue as being served by the 2 and 5. I think it's confusing, and highly inappropriate for a general purpose encyclopedia. Everywhere else in the MTA literature and signage, those stations are not shown as served by the 2 or 5. Since the MTA saw fit to say so only in a footnote, we should do the same. However, I was outvoted, and the MTA map does provide a fig-leaf of support for the majority view. Small print counts as a "citable source," even if only weakly.

But for the point that you're propsing, we don't even have that. Marc Shepherd 18:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

5 midday extension

In the "History" section, the sentence currently reads: "Beginning June 29 2009, 5 trains will be extended to Flatbush Avenue during midday hours as a result of lack of 2 train service along Nostrand Avenue during this time." This sounds as if 2 service will be reduced. If this is not the case, (I haven't heard of a reduction) wouldn't this be a better sentence (after it begins): "On June 29, 2009, 5 trains were extended to Flatbush Avenue during midday hours in order to supplement 2 train service." ? Tinlinkin (talk) 05:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

5 suspension express in the Bronx

Wait, I'm confused. The suspension in the Bronx of the 5 train express is suspended until August 2011 between East 180th Street and 3rd Ave- 149th St. The track work was completed? O:> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.168.173 (talk) 00:43, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

5 express service will be restored on 9/7 to 3/2011, when there is going to be no express service again to 8/2011.--IGeMiNix (talk) 02:21, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

I see. And by the way, I redo the page, so why you changed it back? My edits were constructive and needed. The 5 train does operates to/from Bowling Green in Manhattan during evenings and weekends. Rush hour peak direction trains run to Nereid Avenue also. Neried Avenue is in Wakefield, Bronx. The 5 train is also a shuttle train between Dyre Ave and E 180th St during off hours. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.168.173 (talk) 03:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

It was easier to restore an old version then to rewrite it, you can add the info as you already did but the shuttles trivia is a misnomer as there are the Rockaway Shuttle, Lefferts Blvd Shuttle, and Franklin Ave Shuttle that also operate at the time. --IGeMiNix (talk) 16:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so next time I'll add a few things rather then redoing the info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.168.173 (talk) 22:13, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Rockaway and Van Siclen avenues

Should we get rid of the "closed for rehabilitation until November 2015" for Rockaway Avenue station and Van Siclen Avenue station? It's January 2016 now (GeneralPunger (talk) 04:09, 2 January 2016 (UTC))

Clark Street Tunnel Weekend Closure

Since the 5 will run on rerouted service every weekend (starting the week of June 17), should there be a change in the Station Listing?

The weekend times should be included in paragraph 1.Theoallen1 (talk) 21:36, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

I'll work on it first thing in the morning. —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 05:26, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 20:25, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Timetables

@Kew Gardens 613: In regards to this: we usually either cite an archive version, or cite the old schedule as {{cite book}} with no url. epicgenius (talk) 01:34, 13 January 2020 (UTC)