Talk:600 series connector

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The picture is kind of blurry. --Oleg Alexandrov 20:56, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have seen these on travels to Australia. The non-connecting plastic prong can have (usually has?) a hole in it which would it allow it to be secured with a screw, so the plug can not easily be disconnected.

Yes, some have this, though in my experience it is not that common and I haven't seen one with the hole for a long time. Even rarer is a socket which made use of the hole. Don't have any stats though. mmj (talk) 07:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

All of the 3 prongs have a connector each side, thus the plug/socket actually has 6 individual connectors. From memory, it is the very outer connectors which are used for modern phones.

In some variants of the plug and/or socket, most of the connectors other than the two that are actually used are omitted, and there is just the plastic peg without the metal contact. I'd say that all six connectors are rarely used in our telephone system, or maybe they have a special function. mmj (talk) 07:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Looking inside a socket, two of the metal connectors would touch eachother when the plug was removed. Inserting a plug would part these two connectors before joining each one to the plug. Maybe this so that telephones could be connected in an old-style series circuit? It looked like it was deliberately designed this way. --Ziltro 02:49, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

The picture inserted into the article is infact a 605/RJ12 adaptor, the plug (male) is a model 605 where the socket (female) is either a 610 or 611. The difference between a 610 and 611 is that the pins for 1 & 2 and also 5 & 6 are sprung together when the 605 plug is removed. This allows for a Mode 3 type installation commonly used for security dialing equipment.

It must be noted that any telephone wiring installed or modified in Australia needs to be completed by properly licensed persons - Regulated by the ACMA Sa87 13:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

That's a good point, and I'm not quite sure how to word an appropriate warning for the article. I do think something is needed in addition to the standard disclaimers.

Perhaps a section or even an article on ACMA regulations?

The other side of it is, there are problems with the regulations, and also with the competency and motivation of some installers. In particular, when a householder combines a BTB alarm with broadband and POTS all on the one line, it can get rather problematical to satisfy both their requirements and the regs. There's been a lot of politics played regarding the regs, going back to the Telecom monopoly mentality (don't get me started on that). Add to this the reality that installers of BTB alarms and broadband (generally) know the requirements of POTS and of the service they are supporting, but may be less familiar with the impacts on other services (and are not being paid to take care of them, frankly), and it's not surprising that the Internet is alive with horror stories. Andrewa 20:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

References

Series 600

This article needs quite a lot of work...

Moving it from 610 (telephone) to 600 series connector or a similar title would probably be a good start.

See

http://ji.com.au/index.php?p=telecoms for the wiring of these connectors

http://hytel.com.au/CATALOGCURRENT/australian.htm for some examples of the variety of these connectors still available and their names

I'll get on to this fairly soon. Andrewa 12:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Move done, refactor and expansion started. Andrewa 19:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I think the page move was a good idea. Redirects/disambig links should go at 610 or 610 (number), if they aren't already, as most people (well, those who know what certain sockets are called) would know this as a "610 connector" or "610 socket". -- Chuq 22:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm hoping the move is uncontroversial. If anyone objects, we'll just have to go through WP:RM.

Agree there should be redirects from 605 plug, 610 socket, 611 socket and probably a host more. I've done those three, at least. Andrewa 23:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Expanded a little - not confident that the pinouts are right for pairs two and three, I have seen many variations on this... possibly all possible combinations! The pair assignments are OK but the polarities may not be. Andrewa 01:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

The other outstanding is some better photos... I have quite a collection of plugs, sockets and adaptors, which I'll photograph in time. About to buy a better camera, so probably wait for that. Andrewa 02:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Remember that polarities generally don't matter with telephone wiring so its no surprise that sources would be inconsistant on it. Plugwash 20:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Is this connector the same as the APO (Australian post office) connector? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.222.171 (talk) 06:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Most probably, but that term was also used for at least one other, deliberately incompatible connector during the long period when the organisation then known in Australia as the GPO (General Post Office) had a monopoly on telephone services. This aspect of Australian telecommunications history is not well handled at present, see our DAB at GPO and at present there's no mention of this important organisation, which was rarely known by any other name. Andrewa (talk) 19:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC)