Talk:63rd Tony Awards

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Joint nomination

Is this the first time 3 actors have been nominated for sharing a role? If it is and it can be referenced, I think it should be mentioned in the opening. 209.247.22.166 (talk) 16:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I found the answer to my question at [1]. 209.247.22.166 (talk) 16:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Good question--here is the detail: The Tony Awards "Fun Facts" shows pairs three times and mulitiple nominees once: 1)the muliples were the children in The Sound of Music; 2) the pairs were "Donal Donnelly and Patrick Bedford were jointly nominated as Best Actor for Philadelphia, Here I Come! (1966). John Kani and Winston Ntshona won for Best Actor in a Play for the double bill Sizwe Banzi is Dead and The Island (1975). Emily Skinner and Alice Ripley (playing a set of Siamese twins) were nominated as Best Actress in a Musical for Side Show (1998)."[2]. Maybe we should put this in the general Tony Award article?JeanColumbia (talk) 19:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Tony "snubs"

Is the information about who didn't get a nomination relevant? Even if it's referenced, it's basically just someone's POV and I think it's trivial and doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article. I don't recall reading any other Wikipedia articles about awards that mention who wasn't nominated. Does anyone else think this should be removed? 209.247.22.164 (talk) 17:23, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest, I do not like that material. I think that none of the other year-by-year articles contains this kind of material (I have either written or edited almost every one). It seems to me to be somewhat against neutral point-of-view (yes, even tho it is referenced), and also is most definitely trivia. So yes, 209.247.22.164, I agree with you.

I'll go a bit further and say that, since one of the guiding principles of Wikipedia is that "Wikipedia is not a soapbox" (WP:SOAP), and IS an encyclopedia, this "snub" material fails on both of those grounds. (Now, for example, should someone decline a Tony nom --yes, it happened--that is news and should be included.) But the snub opinions are just not encyclopedic and border on soapbox. Off with it, I say (but let's wait a day or so for others to discuss, no great urgency). JeanColumbia (talk) 18:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I agree this paragraph should be removed for every reason cited above. LiteraryMaven (talk • contrib) 19:39, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

People are adding names to this paragraph! It's time to be bold before things get out of hand. 209.247.22.166 (talk) 14:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! JeanColumbia (talk) 16:01, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I also agree with removing this trivial gossip. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Red links

There are a lot of red links in this article. I'm wondering if it is common practice to link every name, even if it doesn't seem likely an article about the person will ever be written. LargoLarry (talk) 14:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi--no, I don't think it is common practice to link every name; I've worked on almost all of these year-by-year articles, and there aren't too many red-links. If there are, many of us have made at least stub articles. The problem arises, I think, in the categories of lighting, set, costumes, etc (in other words, the craft/creatives) and in the new plays/musicals where many just do not have articles yet. Despite (or maybe because of) the guidelines (WP:RED) I'm inclined to leave them alone for now, as the red-links may remind/inspire some new articles. I watch these articles, and in oh say 6 -10 months, if there are still red-links, I'll either write an article or delete the red-link. Feel free to join in! JeanColumbia (talk) 18:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

the show

The funniest line of the night wasn't heard on TV. When Liza Minnelli started singing in the opening, a celebrity sitting near us said in a stage whisper "10,000 drag queens in New York City do Liza and this is the best one they could find?" I'm surprised the mikes didn't pick yp the laughter in the audience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.129.236.192 (talk) 12:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Closing number

I have a question about the closing number Neil Patrick Harris sang and I don't know where else to ask it. Maybe someone here can help with an answer. Since the song included a lot of the winner's names (it even mentioned Angela Lansbury won five times), do you think the person who wrote it was given the names in advance? I can't imagine that someone was sitting backstage writing it as the night went along, and I don't think Neil Patrick Harris sang it without rehearsing it first. LargoLarry (talk) 13:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought that too... this was a very poorly executed show, many bad mics, and people mic'd who weren't supposed to be, and did anyone else see the stage hand start to cross while someone was presenting? But anyway... His song could have been written that night... there could have been multiple versions of the song (like if Lansbury didn't win 5 the line would be almost won 5), and there were cue cards, i dunno. But Okham's Razor tells me he was privy to the winners in advance...Moonraker0022 (talk) 03:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

# of Tony Awards won

The number of Tony Awards Angela Lansbury has won doesn't belong next to her name in the list of winners. Yasmina Reza won her second one this year, so why not add that after her name? This is not common practice in any article about awards and shouldn't be started now. 4.215.137.118 (talk) 13:19, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

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