Talk:9th Missouri Infantry Regiment/GA1

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Peacemaker67 in topic GA Review

GA Review

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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 08:06, 5 July 2020 (UTC)Reply


This article is in good shape. I have a few comments:

  • I take it this is dabbed as (Confederate) because the 59th Illinois Infantry Regiment was originally the 9th Missouri Infantry Regiment?
I'd assumed that there was a 9th Mo. Union regiment. Once this review is closed, I'll move the page to a title without the dab. This is probably the primary topic
I'd say so, but add a hatnote pointing to 59th Illinois Infantry Regiment. Something like {{About|a Confederate regiment|the Union regiment initially known as the 9th Missouri Infantry Regiment|59th Illinois Infantry Regiment}}
Lead
  • originally commanded by Colonel John Bullock Clark Jr.., I think that is right, because the period after Jr isn't a full stop to end the sentence. Happy to be disabused of that view.
Done
This is my mistake, see MOS:CONSECUTIVE. I've removed it. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:04, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Body
  • The 9th Missouri Infantry rRegiment
Done
  • Missourians and to be sent send the men to Fort Smith, Arkansas?
I went with something different, this is a tricky one
this still isn't grammatically correct. Suggest "The 9th Missouri Infantry Regiment originated when John Bullock Clark Jr., a veteran of the Missouri State Guard, was placed in command of four companies of newly-recruited Missourians with the intention of sending them to Fort Smith, Arkansas." if that is what is meant? Either way, it isn't ok as is. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Done
  • Clarkson's Independent Ranger Battalion, an Arkansas-raised unit.
Done
  • move link to CSA to first mention
Done
  • link company (military unit)
Done
  • I think the detail of company commanders and counties is undue detail, and the date of muster needs to be added. Suggest:

As of <the date of muster>, the regiment consisted of Companies A, B, C and H raised from Missouri, and Companies D, E, G and I from Arkansas.<insert note about no F and K> The Arkansas companies were originally from Clarkson's Independent Ranger Battalion.

Done
  • "The unit, initially known as Clark's Missouri Regiment/Clark's Missouri Infantry Regiment" (depending on which is in sources, fix lead to match sources)
This hasn't been done, the lead and body are different.Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, sorry. Most of the replies were during my lunch break at work, and I needed to wait until I got home. Actually should have been just "Clark's Missouri Infantry"
Done
  • if Clark's Missouri Infantry Regiment, then you could use Clark's Missouri Infantry after first mention in full, and try to use just the one designation (or just "the regiment" if that is clear) rather than Clark's Regiment etc
This hasn't been done, also, if you are going with "Clark's Regiment", this is an informal truncated form and should probably be "Clark's regiment". Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
I tried to standardize, I hope I didn't miss an instance
  • During the early stages of the Bbattleof Prairie Grove
Done
  • The regiment lost 26 men at Prairie Grove - killed or total?
Clarified
  • After Prairie Grovethe battle
I changed this in the preceding sentence, so it might be repetitive to change it again here
  • the companies of Clarkson's old unit→the Arkansas-raised companies of Clarkson's former Independent Ranger Battalion
Done
You could add what regiment they joined. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Source states a new battalion, I've added that. If desired, I can peruse the Official Records to try to find the full name
  • I think the detail of company commanders and counties in the reorganisation is undue detail. Suggest:

As of the date of reorganization, the regiment consisted of ten Missouri-raised companies, A–I and K.

September 30, 1863 is a bit repetitive. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
I removed the repetitive year, hopefully that was what you were referring to
  • Camp Bragg, Arkansas, on October 20, and spent the rest of 1863 in winter quarters there.
Went with something similar
  • Parsons' other brigade, commanded by Colonel Simon P. Burns.
Done
I'm just nitpicking here, but "Colonel Simon P. Burns'" isn't very good grammar. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Fixed
  • An initial charge was successful
Done
  • link counterattack
Done
  • although Colonel Musser
Done
  • but thick mud interfered withimpeded the attack
Done

More to come. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:15, 5 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • the sources are of high quality and reliable
  • "the survivors were paroled" but when were they captured/surrendered? And is this parole per se? If the war was over, weren't they just released?
Source states the department surrendered and they were paroled. Likely they had to sign an official oath never to take arms against the United States again
  • 9th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Reorganized) as an alternative name is unsourced (lead and infobox)
I've removed it. McGhee uses it in one instance, but none of other secondary sources or any of the primary sources use it, so it appears to be a peculiarity to one author.
  • image licensing is fine.

That's me done. Placing on hold for the above to be addressed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Peacemaker67: I've got replies or queries on all of the above (unless I missed one). I'd been writing one of these a day earlier, and it looks like the quality of my work went down with extra speed. Hog Farm Bacon 01:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

No worries, it happens. This article is well-written, verifiable using reliable sources, covers the subject well, is neutral and stable, contains no plagiarism, and is illustrated by acceptably licensed images with appropriate captions. Passing. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply