Talk:A Elbereth Gilthoniel/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 17:36, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

• Comment I have never reviewed an article on Middle-Earth before, so please bear with me! 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 17:36, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks. Anything I can do to help, just ask! Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:19, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Cheers for the fast response! I am now pleased to pass this article for GA status per the changes implemented. Congrats on another fantastic article! 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 19:22, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Copyvio check

Earwig says good to go.

Files

• File:Aerlinn in Edhil o Imladris.png: good, relevant, CC-BY-SA 3.0.

• Noted.

Prose

• I think Elbereth is their Sindarin name? Maybe note this in the article like "Varda (Sindarin: Elbereth)". Same goes for "also known as Elbereth" in the body.

• Done.

• Maybe personal taste, but the sentence: "It is the longest piece of Sindarin in The Lord of the Rings, but it is not translated in the main text where it is first presented" is a bit wonky for me. Maybe try something like "in The Lord of the Rings, but is not translated"?

• Split the sentence.

• Much better!

• In the image caption, "also known as "Aerlinn in Edhil o Imladris (Hymn of the Elves of Rivendell)" is mentioned nowhere else in the article and uncited. Same for "written in Tengwar script using the mode of Beleriand," but I think the image may be fan-made?

• Mm, yes. I've removed the "Aerlinn..." bit as not needed; it probably comes from the ConLang fan community. The Mode of Beleriand probably also doesn't need mentioning; I've cited the Tengwar.

• Ah, noted.

• "there is more to Middle-earth than can immediately be communicated" – wikilink Middle-earth (surprised it took this long to be mentioned!)

• Linked. We often try to avoid linking in quotations, but it does seem reasonable here.

• "In 1967 Donald Swann" – missing a comma.

• Added.

• The sentence of Complete Songs & Poems reads too long for me, especially with three appositives. Recommend rephrasing.

• Good catch, split.

Refs

• Formatting good. Passes spotcheck. Given their prevalence, I decided to check the two refs citing Tolkien 1954a and pick the rest in Secondary at random. Primary refs 2, 3 and secondary refs 1, 4, 7 and 12 show no concerns—they all support the article's content. I had access to the primary refs via a physical copy of the 2011 HarperCollins edition, ref 1 via previews on Google Books and 4 via the Wikipedia Library. Note that I did not have access to ref 3, which I also randomly chose for spotchecking.

• Noted.

• Ref 9 appears to be a dead link.

• Archived.

• Ref 13 is a wiki as users write and submit lyrics, so unfortunately it is not usable.

• Replaced ref. Or we can just cite the media.

• Even better!

Other

• Navs, cats and further template looks good.

• Noted.

• In External links, "[Ardalambion (the tongues of Arda)]" is a missing URL

• Added.

• Recommend adding template:Use dmy dates

• Added.

• Recommend adding template:Use X English

• Added.

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