Talk:A Promised Land

Excessive citations

Hi all, the purpose of the "excessive citations" is to combat the extreme violation of WP:UNDUE that is a section on the book's reception that only uses quotes from a single source when the book has been reviewed by the whole of the internet. I will work on expanding the section when I get some time in the next few days, but am in the middle of another project now. I hope that someone can beat me to the punch and fill out the article a bit using the supplied references, though. Footlessmouse (talk) 08:06, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:54, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

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Presidential portrait of Obama in 2012

• ... that even though A Promised Land by Barack Obama (pictured) was to be released in mid-November, The New York Times reported in September that the book was "virtually guaranteed" to be the year's top seller? Source: "On Thursday, Penguin Random House announced that it would release Mr. Obama’s memoir in November, with an initial run of three million copies. It is virtually guaranteed to be the biggest book of the year." (New York Times)
  • ALT1:... that the 2020 book A Promised Land by Barack Obama (pictured) took longer to write than any other presidential memoir in the past hundred years? Source: "Obama took three years and 10 months to publish — longer than any other American president in the last century." (New York Times)
  • ALT2:... that the audiobook version of the 2020 presidential memoir A Promised Land is over 28 hours long and narrated by Barack Obama (pictured)? Source: "This unabridged audiobook clocks in at an impressive 28 hours and 10 minutes... it joins Jimmy Carter’s White House Diary and George W. Bush’s Decision Points as a presidential memoir read by its author." Rolling Stone

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Positive Psychology (Can provide another QPQ if the fail doesn't count, not sure on the rules for that.)
• Comment: ALTs welcome. More expansion possible. Will submit for GA relatively soon.

5x expanded by Footlessmouse (talk). Self-nominated at 12:57, 14 December 2020 (UTC).

• This article is a five-fold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline and any of the hooks could be used. The image is in the public domain, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues, as I think the one Earwig highlighted as 96.8% suspicious was copied from Wikipedia. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:11, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the review! Earwig's was a trip, I didn't check it beforehand (disclaimer: I never do, I don't copy and paste except in quotes so I should never have problems). If you click on that link it takes you to a forum that doesn't currently contain any of that info, so I'm not sure what the deal is, I would guess it was copied from an earlier version of the article. Some of the phrases are common enough to be coincidence, like how Stokols published reviews in two papers, I remember writing that but it was just the easiest way to state it. The vast majority of the flagged content predates my work on the article, though. Footlessmouse (talk) 11:38, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

GA?

Footlessmouse do you plan to take this to GA by any chance? It seems quite thorough in coverage and doesn’t seem too far off meeting the criteria I feel. Perhaps a bit of expansion in the content section, but it’s very well written. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 09:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

On reviews actually, I recall seeing a couple of reviews criticising the ending (killing bin Laden) saying it was quite bland and too undramatic. May be worth mentioning here. On phone so can’t really find links atm. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 09:34, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@ProcrastinatingReader: Yes, I would very much like to see it promoted to GA after it has had its day on the main page; it is in prep 4 scheduled for 16 January 2020. I plan on working on it after that and am very open to a collaborative effort as well. If you know of a couple off hand that discuss the ending, go ahead and add them, otherwise we will have to make sure to keep an eye out for them when improving to GA. Footlessmouse (talk) 18:56, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Fantastic work! No Swan So Fine (talk) 10:22, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

4th audiobook narrated by US president

Not only Jimmy Carter and GW Bush narrated their audiobooks, but also Bill Clinton (My Life, 2005). So this is the 4th US presidential memoir read by the author himself, nit the third. Cyberia 15 (talk) 07:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)