Talk:Aaron Schechter

Latest comment: 6 years ago by StonyBrook in topic Controversies

Controversies

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Added a controversies section into which I have put sourced material on the Isaac Hersh case, as well as a link to a site with primary source material on the case of Rabbi Shlomo Carlebach, which is also documented on his page Shlomo Carlebach (rabbi). Please help improve this section in the spirit of WP:NPOV and conforming to WP:BLP.--Chakira (talk) 04:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

  • Hi Chakira: Wikipedia does not approve of Blogs as relibale sources, see WP:SPS (Wikipedia:Verifiability#Wikipedia:Verifiability): "Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, forum postings, and similar sources are largely not acceptable...Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP#Reliable sources." In keeping with this, you would be well-advised to remove the citations from Blogs, and if you can, replace them with conventional Wikipedia:Reliable sources. IZAK (talk) 08:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
  • While the source linked to is a blog, the material referenced there was not a matter of opinion. The blog hosts a scan of a letter that was sent to Agudas Yisrael of America by Rabbi Carlebach, and detailed the issues that were controversial. If the letter is hosted elsewhere, the link can be changed. But I repeat, the source is not an opinion post on a blog, but rather the material hosted by the blog. 100.8.9.35 (talk) 23:01, 7 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Using FailedMessiah, or any self-published blog, as a source for information that doesn't appear elsewhere in WP:RS is not permitted, per WP:RSSELF. In addition, we are dealing here with a WP:BLP which has strict guidelines, such as WP:BLPSPS. In WP:SPS it states (bold in original): "Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer." WP:RSOPINION means that information contained in a blog, until it appears in reliable sources, is just the blog owner's opinion, no matter how accurate it is. It states there (bold in original): "Never use self-published books, zines, websites, webforums, blogs and tweets as a source for material about a living person...". This is why the contentious paragraph in question keeps getting removed, as it should, until better sources appear for it. StonyBrook (talk) 02:07, 10 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
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