Talk:Aban, Russia

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Naming of this article

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

It seems it started as Aban (town) and then experienced 5 renames:

24 May 2005 MichaelDubner (created article)
20 January 2006 Ezhiki (moved Aban (town) to Aban, Krasnoyarsk Krai: it's not a town) [1]
20 June 2006 Ezhiki (moved Aban, Krasnoyarsk Krai to Aban (urban-type settlement): no other UTS's by this name in Russia) [2]
30 June 2008 Ezhiki (moved Aban (urban-type settlement) to Aban (settlement): status change in 2006) [3]
15 March 2010 Ezhiki (moved Aban (settlement) to Aban (rural locality): more in line with other similar articles) [4]
6 July 2011 Bogdan Nagachop (moved Aban (rural locality) to Aban, Russia over redirect: Aban, Togo and others) [5]

Because of this, it has been suggested to leave out the type (town, urban-type settlement, settlement, rural locality) and to use a geographic region, i.e. the country or something below as long as this is unambigous. There are thousands of potential articles. Bogdan Nagachop (talk) 11:35, 6 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

And if it happens to be renamed later, we'll move it again :) Doing multiple moves due to status changes is pretty unusual, though, and most of the six moves above were caused by searching for the best way to fit the article into the changing disambig/redir structure over the years, not because the premise was flawed. All in all, fewer than 0.03% of all inhabited localities in Russia undergo status changes each year, and many of them are not under ambiguous titles to begin with, most others don't have any articles, and for quite a few the status change does not affect the disambiguator choice (a village reclassified as a khutor would still be a rural locality). Seems like a negligible problem to try basing a rules amendment on.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 6, 2011; 14:43 (UTC)

The current naming is consistent with other resolutions of the same problem at the disambiguation page regarding the place names section:

Aban River, a river in Krasnoyarsk Krai, Russia
Aban, Russia, a rural locality (a settlement) in Krasnoyarsk Krai, Russia
Aban, Nigeria, a locality in Nigeria
Aban, Togo, a locality in Togo
Aban (crater), a crater on Mars named after Aban, Russia— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vecrumba (talk • contribs)

Once Bogdan found a few more places called "Aban" outside of Russia, it made perfect sense to move this article to "Aban, Russia". This move is not being contested at all. My point was that before we had an article about "Aban, Togo", "Aban (rural locality)" made the entry on the Aban dab stand out more prominently than "Aban, Russia" would. In a list including a crater, a river, several people, etc., specifying that Aban is a rural locality/a populated place is a more helpful hint than specifying it's in Russia (the Aban River, after all, is also in Russia). This article has been used as an example in a larger discussion, hence Bogan's and my seemingly puzzling comments here.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 6, 2011; 18:08 (UTC)

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