Talk:Abdominal examination

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"Kamil Ševela" technique

I tried to look this up, and can't find anything in google that isnt SEO spam, taken verbatim from this article, or anything on pubmed. no searches for xiphoid/liver auscultation returned anything either. I could understand how it works, theoretically, but it also seems a little suspicious and in need of clinical verification. That this doc has attached their name to it is also suspicious to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.196.49 (talk) 19:28, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Order of procedures

We were taught that palpation and percussion were done before auscultation - why auscultate when you may inadvertantly disturb areas of tenderness? • Leon 12:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The theory, AFAIK, why the auscultation is first is:

1. it's "least invasive first" -- you're not going to have a happy/cooperative patient after you've done rebound tenderness and find it is positive and
2. in theory you may disturb the abdomen-- by doing deep palpation.

Here are a bunch of videos -- http://research.bidmc.harvard.edu/clinicalskills/clinSkills_List.asp?skillID=4 --note that 'auscultation' is mentioned first. Nephron  T|C 05:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure, the references say it all. It still seems better to me to go for light palpation first since tendernesses can be assessed before the abdomen is touched in any other way - including percussion. Perhaps it's worth mentioning variations in techniques.• Leon 15:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Tone

It seems like this article reads more like instructions - e.g. "one should" - does anyone mind if I tidy it up? • Leon 04:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Indeed; this reads like an instructional article written for physicians, which seems totally inappropriate for Wikipedia.74.73.104.99 (talk) 03:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

My review of this article

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I suggest changing the article in the following ways:

explain the 9 segments of the abdomen

I think that this article could be improved by adding this statement:

link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_segment#9-region_scheme

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no reference needed

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Thank you, UseTheCommandLine (talk) 01:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Not systematic enough

Need to be like real medical practice. S start at hands, look for palmer flexia, duplitrons contracture, leukinichia, work up to the face to look at dentition, down to the abdominal examination. And the practical way in which this is done 129.180.172.246 (talk) 00:52, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree! The abdo exam enlisted here is not realistic. You start at hands, for one... 129.180.1.214 (talk) 04:52, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Editing the Article

I've attempted to make some edits to remove unsourced material.

Everything I've added is from Mosby's Guide to Physical Examination, I'm just trying to work out the parts that are (to me) rather superfluous.

I left in the pain medications and the renal arteries and bruits. The former because I don't have the resources to check now, the later because I think it's true and will need to think about it.

I'll admit, I could be wrong about my corrections, but I think I had good reason for the most part. I look forward to discussion.

Thanks, PiousCorn (talk) 05:45, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Also, my references are shit. I still don't know how to reference pages from within the same resource. Please don't hold that against the material, it is all from Mosby's. PiousCorn (talk) 05:46, 9 March 2016 (UTC)