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The result of the move request was: No consensus. Jafeluv (talk) 07:49, 24 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Abies amabilis → Pacific Silver Fir — The overwhelming common name for this tree. 882K hits for WP:COMMONNAME: “Pacific Silver Fir”, 49K for scientific: "Abies amabilis". No other species known, or referred to, by this name. Labattblueboy (talk) 19:05, 16 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Support; if there is a name which is common, recognizable, and precise we should use it; usually this will be the Linnaean, but when it is not, we should not insist on it against usage. We have an article at Gray wolf, not Canis lupus; why should trees be treated differently? (This will rarely arise for anything smaller; even Camellia sinensis is probably better than the ambiguous Tea plant). Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:35, 17 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Oppose. When I reverted the earlier move, I got more hits for "Abies amabilis" than "Pacific Silver Fir" in Google Scholar and Google Books, a crude calculation of the preferred name in reliable sources. It's clearly the most commonly used name in our reliable sources. Rkitko ^(talk) 02:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
- ETA: This species also has several vernacular names (e.g. [1]). I even found that the most common vernacular name in the late 19th century was "white fir". That would make the species name the least ambiguous for this article and why it should remain here. Rkitko ^(talk) 02:54, 17 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Oppose. More than one common name. Stable under the binomial name since 2007.[2] Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)Reply
Oppose essentially per Rkitko. Raw Google hits are all but meaningless; Google Scholar and Books hits are more indicative of usage in reliable sources. Ucucha 14:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

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