Talk:Abigail Adams Smith

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Sorry, I need some help with where to put my signature when editing a page. Mapfan 02:03, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was support for move to Abigail Adams Smith. I have created the suggested redirect at Nabby Adams.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

The subject appears to be frequently referred to as "Nabby Adams", and rarely if ever as "Abigail “Nabby” Adams Smith". I propose to move the page to that name.   Will Beback  talk  22:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

• Support a move away from the current title not on the factual merits but for aesthetic reasons. Nabby Adams or Abigail Adams Smith would be fine with me. — AjaxSmack 23:35, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
• Support - per preceding, I thought WP:Commonname comes into play here. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:04, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
• I support a move away from the current name, but lean towards Abigail Adams Smith. That was her name for most of her life, esp. adult life, and how she is referred to as author of her collected letters and in other sources, whereas Nabby is a nickname. Although I was surprised to see how often Nabby Adams is used in more recent sources, both names are used. (See also Abigail Adams Smith Museum.) I would make Nabby Adams a redirect. Either one is an improvement, though. Station1 (talk) 04:52, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
• I'd support Abigail Adams Smith too. Either it or Nabby Adams are better than the current title.   Will Beback  talk  20:27, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Article that discusses this article and how a TV show led to Wikipedia getting the facts wrong

Please review: What's Wrong with HBO's Dramatization of John Adams's Story by Jeremy Stern.--NK (talk) 18:05, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Portrait

The portrait associated with this page is not of Abigail Adams Smith, but of her mother, Abigail Smith Adams. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.75.56.122 (talk) 16:04, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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Marriage Failure?

The article on John Adams says that her marriage failed, but I can see no mention of that here? The Jade Knight (talk) 07:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

I've added a sourced paragraph on the marriage. A prior engagement failed, which may have caused confusion, and it seems from other sources that Nabby's visits to her parents were for health reasons (first for treatment, and later to die), rather than due to marriage 'failure', though it was evidently not the best of marriages. —ADavidB 14:17, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Day hotel?

The section on the Mount Vernon Hotel Museum and Garden states that "The carriage house was purchased by Joseph Hart and converted into a day hotel. Day hotels were popular at the time as they provided the burgeoning New York middle class an escape from the overcrowded and oppressive city." But what is a day hotel? The term isn't used in the sourcing provided at the end of the paragraph. BX9438Q (talk) 17:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I added a link to day room (hotel) in the article, which explains the concept. —ADavidB 21:04, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's exactly what they're talking about. The museum's website calls it more of a "fashionable country resort" where people could come to "spend the day at the hotel sipping lemonade in the ladies parlor or playing cards in the gentlemen’s tavern". That's not really the modern concept of renting rooms by the hour. Station1 (talk) 21:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Quoting from the linked article, "Historically, the use of day rooms dates as far back as the hotel itself." Just as lobbies and other hotel areas are available to guests today, I expect historic day hotel spaces besides one's room were as well. Other editors remain welcome to find and include pertinent information about day hotels from the period when the carriage house was converted. We shouldn't depart too far from Smith, though, in this article. —ADavidB 23:51, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Agree with that last part. The building itself has next to nothing to do with Smith and its use as a hotel wasn't until years after her death. I've removed that too-detailed section and added a link to the museum's article in a See Also section instead. Station1 (talk) 07:07, 11 August 2024 (UTC)