Talk:AboveNet

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And if you bother to read the article on Tier 1 ISP's... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_network

Paid peering is still peering. Where is the evidence they receive a whole table from Sprint? There is none. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.43.148.235 (talk • contribs).

I'll quote from the Tier 1 network talk page:

Under normal circumstances they use BGP communities to only accept Sprint customer routes, and to restrict propagation of their announcements to Sprint customers. But they definitely receive a full table from Sprint, and they have used it in the past when necessary. For example, when ATDN was threatening to depeer them due to their ratio, the Sprint routes came out to reduce traffic via ATDN peers. You can also see that they are terminated onto customer gateway routers, not peering routers:

Name: sl-gw19-rly-3-0.sprintlink.net

Address: 144.232.247.85

Name: sl-abovenet-19-0.sprintlink.net

Address: 144.232.247.86

Until recently you could even see the full routes in their looking glass, but they finally blocked access to this view.

Humble226 18:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

--Fibonacci 17:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Tier 1?

It seems that AboveNet claims they are a Tier 1 ISP, and some people seem to believe it and change the article back to reflect that belief. Here's what the Tier 1 carrier article has to say about it (emphasis added):

Due to the marketing considerations mentioned above, many people mistakenly believe that other networks are Tier 1 when they are not. Because of this, many online resources and forums incorrectly list several non-qualifying networks as Tier 1. Below is a list of some of these networks which are often listed as Tier 1 networks, along with the reason that they are not:

• Allstream/AS15290 (Verizon Business/AS701 transit)
• AboveNet/AS6461) (Sprint/AS1239 paid peering)

It's not Tier 1. Period. --Fibonacci 02:39, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Advert template

I added the Advert template as this does, indeed, read somewhat like a blatant advertisement (especially the post-bankruptcy information); also, both of the two references point to specific AboveNet products from a seemingly-marketing stance. Quite a few past edits seem to have come from AboveNet IP space, which are possibly corporate IPs, but there's no way to know either way without inside information. I'm not sure if this is the proper way to go about this, but I would be happy to rewrite this article from a hopefully neutral stance if it is appropriate. Flodded (talk) 06:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

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