Talk:Abrahadabra
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Merge with Abracadabra?
edit- Keep: This is a topic in it's own right, and deserves it's own article. Somecallmetim 13:29, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- Sigh. Keep for that reason, though it'll make more work for me. Dan 06:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: This word is a cornerstone to Thelema and needs to have a robust article with a link to Abracadabra. –Frater5 (talk/con) 19:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Has enough of a distinct identity to warrant separate coverage. Maestlin 03:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Removing merge suggestion
editI removed the following: Merge tag removed, so talk page doesn't show up in a category. Garion96 (talk) 16:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The two weeks it's been up, all opinions have agreed with keeping this article, with no votes for merger. Moreover, this article is simply becoming too long and complex to become merged with another. –Frater5 (talk/con) 18:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Origin of the Word
editThis article doesn't even agree with itself. The first section states that "Abrahadabra" as such first appears in The Book of the Law circa 1904; then the next section states that Crowley "appears to say" he discovered the word prior to January 1901, and used it in the Invocation of Horus that was supposed to have led to the reception of The Book; also that it appears in a published 1901 diary. Jonjon358 15:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- Does this last edit solve the problem? Crowley doesn't seem to have published any work containing the Word until he started distributing the Book of the Law. Dan 08:00, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
The word appears in The Testament of Solomon which is a much older book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.40.212.86 (talk) 15:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I know this has no relevence here - but does anybody actually believe this bull? That a person can fall for such obvious garbage, such childish stupidity makes my stomach turn. K, rant done. 206.116.141.156 (talk) 16:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Mention of alternate (most widely known?) spelling
editSurely there is some relationship between the 'magickal' word abrahadabra and the 'magical' word abracadabra? This article should note either the connection, or the similarity somewhere. --Mal 10:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Abrahadabra
editmeaning. by Kukuasu forget them not! by earlie human as inspired by drug —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.171.61.131 (talk) 17:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Lost Word of Freemasonry Material Irrelevant?
editWhat's the relevance of the material on the Lost Word of Freemasonry? The page clearly states that the Lost Word is not ABRAHADABRA, so why are we talking about it here? --Los358 (talk) 04:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the material. If someone can demonstrate its relevance, I would be happy to see it returned. --Los358 (talk) 18:55, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
In Description: Irrelevant and Strange
editAnomieBOT entered the following on 07:22, 23 December 2013: "The Hooked X map for the Holy Graal, denoted the placement in Kings Cross around 1860 prior to Aleister Crowley being in the alleged position of the magician. This position of the Holy Graal still is existing today by the streets with the intersection of Roslyn Street and Darlinghurst Road Kings Cross, it is held within number 34, like Aleister had XXXIV in relationship to the number of the building. There is a hidden compartment similar as within the Ritual VIII."
I move the above has NOTHING to do with the Word Abrahadabra and nothing to do with material relevant to Abrahadabra. It sounds like original, unsourced material. It sounds like someone is trying to assert a conspiracy theory about the Holy Grail being in Britain. Silliness, it sounds like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.77.68.131 (talk) 03:58, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just removed that independently. Though Crowley would cheerfully agree that The Holy Graal is in Britain (and many other countries). Dan (talk) 20:47, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
"Received and revealed"
editIn the intro, it states that: "Abrahadabra is a significant word within Thelema, first received and revealed by Aleister Crowley in The Book of the Law (Liber AL vel Legis), the central sacred text of Thelema."
Yet the Quran—which Muslims consider to have been received and revealed by Muhammad just the same—is stated on its article as "the central religious text of Islam, believed by Muslims to be a revelation directly from God (Allah)." Even within the article for Thelema, it's stated that "Crowley's system begins with The Book of the Law, a text he said was dictated to him by a non-corporeal entity named Aiwass."
Why not depict Abrahadabra in a similar way? "Abrahadabra is a significant word within Thelema, which Aleister Crowley said was revealed to him in The Book of the Law (Liber AL vel Legis), the central sacred text of Thelema."
I'd make the change myself but I just want to make sure someone else doesn't have a good reason to reverse my changes, as if they know something I don't about how this is an exception or something. -- 2600:1010:A120:6196:D1DA:E1C8:E7FF:D67F (talk) 21:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)