Talk:Abrasion collar

General clean-up and additional information - ongoing as of 2019/06/09

I'm busy with going through a couple of sources and adding relevant information. I may have also found some valid links to other sites which have forensic medical papers touching on the subject. I've also added the clean up template to flag the article for check up by other editors to make sure there's nothing I've missed, such as relevant citation details. There's not too much specific information - and to be honest this subject is kind of gruesome - but hopefully by the time this process is finished, I can at least remove the stub template, if nothing else. If anybody feels like double-checking me, that would be most welcome, I'm still learning how to use Wiki mark-up properly. Thanks!

Cadar (talk) 21:31, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

'Bullet wipe' article needed?

I've found a couple of references in source sites to a phenomenon known as bullet wipe, which is what happens when lead alloy or deposits such as metal fragments or oil on the surface of the bullet are deposited on the edges of the wound. It's fairly arcane and specific to bullet wounds, so I've added a brief explanation in this article, and linked it to an as-yet non-existent Wiki article. I'm thinking there may be enough information to add the article page, but otherwise the link should be removed. As a matter of curiosity, I did a check for a bullet wound article on Wikipedia and found there's a gunshot wound one which mentions neither abrasion collars or bullet wipe, and picked up some issues with the existing article, so I'll probably do an edit on it later. If I keep finding forensic details which aren't included, I may add a new section concerning them in the gunshot wound article, but this entire subject is not my field or my specific interest - I stumbled on it while reading up about the JFK assassination - and I'm finding the needed changes are increasing exponentially

Cadar (talk) 21:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Mostly Completed

The current state of the article and associated links stands at the following:

• Tidied up existing content and reshuffled to suit logical flow;
• Added most relevant information from www.forensicmed.co.uk site (excellent resource, by the way), plus some details from Dr Dinesh Rao's site;
• Added internal Wikipedia links to all relevant unclear or subject-related terms;
• Created redirect pages to associated articles for links to non-existent articles on subjects which don't need their own articles;
• Created redirect page back to this article as place-holder for bullet wipe, which may need its own article. This may be better added to the entrance wound article;
• Created redirect page to full metal jacket bullet article as place-holder for semi-jacketed bullet, which either requires its own article or preferably needs to be folded into an extended article on bullet jacketing based on the current full metal jacket bullet article;
• Removed stub template. There's not much more information on the subject to be added;
• Added ref/citation to forensicmed.co.uk and to Dinesh Rao's site. I don't think it needs more references;
• Decided not to add information concerning range of fire and effects, or gunshot residue and powder burning. None of this has much relevance to the abrasion collar except in terms of what may found deposited on it. Those subjects should be covered in the entrance wound or gunshot wound articles;
• General tidy-up and check of citations and references for correct formatting and details, plus extra citation added;
• Decided against a "see also" section per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout which says to avoid repetition of links in body (of which there are ample) and per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles, which says to avoid "see also" sections altogether [Why? Anyone know?].

This well has run dry. I seriously doubt there's much more to be said about the subject without getting into needlessly arcane and minor forensic nitty-gritty. The only other change I might consider is a run-through to collect all associated artefacts/defects (contusion collars, bullet wipe, etc.) into a separate section. If anyone feels like commenting on the value of it, please do. Otherwise I'm happy to lay this one to rest. Please note I've stuck to British spelling conventions throughout the article.

If some kind person wants to do a style check for me, we can remove the style template and call this one completed. @Finlay McWalter: you up for it? And thanks for the encouragement and help!

Cadar (talk) 13:45, 10 June 2019 (UTC)