Talk:Abu Ali al-Anbari

Reclassified as start

I have reclassified this article as a start due to its level of detail. Capitalistroadster (talk) 02:05, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Page duplication

The available information indicates that Abu Ala al-Afri and Abu Ali al-Anbari (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ali_al-Anbari) are two names for the same person? See: http://www.aymennjawad.org/2016/01/an-account-of-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-islamic-state

And if you look at the information on this page, the information is exactly the same, born near Mosul, Nineveh, a physics teacher. Ethnically Turkmen.

We thus have two page duplication.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/15/everything-we-knew-about-this-isis-mastermind-was-wrong.html?via=mobile&source=twitter

somebody finally wrote a story about this but remember, i pointed it out months ago — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.244.126.217 (talk) 12:47, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

From the Daily Beast [1]: "The Pentagon calls him Haji Imam. His other nicknames include Abu Ali al-Anbari, Abu Alaa al-Afri, Hajji Iman, or simply the Hajji, the Arabic word for “pilgrim” but one that is colloquially used to refer to a revered person or gray eminence. Iraqi and American security officials were so confused by his multiple noms de guerre that they identified him as two distinct high-level leaders of the so-called Islamic State; Wikipedia even has two biographies, and two photographs for the one jihadist whose obscurity was in direct proportion to his significance." Gazkthul (talk) 03:45, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

@Legacypac, LightandDark2000, StanTheMan87, and Donenne: Gazkthul (talk) 22:53, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

• A Daily beast story is not enough for me to support this merge, the two people are over ten years difference in ages and in appearance are quite different in the photographs. Govindaharihari (talk) 06:34, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Govindaharihari, I have edited on both articles, and have uploaded both the images for both articles. The image used to portray Abu Ala al-Afri was used by the U.S State Department through the Rewards for Justice program. It has been used by many reliable sources and was probably first released by the Iraqi government as it's a mugshot image taken in Iraq. The other image used for Abu Ali al-Anbari is not verified, either by any branch of the U.S government or any reliable sources. It is almost as if it's just a random screenshot of a video with Islamic state fighters and someone decided to make that particular bearded man the person known as Abu Ali al-Anbari. I really only uploaded the image because it was being used by certain sources. But as has been shown, many times sources have been incorrect when it comes to information on the leader of Islamic State. See the discussion here Inconsistency regarding Islamic State leaders. StanTheMan87 (talk) 13:05, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

• It's very possible and I would not rule it out. But we unfortunately need more reliable sources to confirm. --Donenne (talk) 08:11, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Update - New sources have stated that al-Afri and al-Anbari are the same individual here and here.--Donenne (talk) 16:11, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

The Wall Street Journal also wrote an article last year [2] describing them as the same man. "The militant commander Abu Ala al Afri[...]known as Abu Ali al-Anbari in Syria" Gazkthul (talk) 14:19, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Death?

If Abu Ala al-Afri and Abu Ali al-Anbari are the same person why does one page show he died and the other doesn't? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.21.166.235 (talk) 13:55, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

This would only help prove they are one in the same. Why would the Islamic State report two different deaths for the same individual using multiple different pseudonyms? --Donenne (talk) 16:17, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

I'll support these are different names for the same guy. Most of them go by multiple assumed names. If we are wrong, we'll have built a composate article on two people, but given there is information and misinformation out there. Interesting example - for years everyone thought Bin Laden needed kidney dialysis - turns out that was fake info planted by the CIA to catch lying informants. If someone said they found bin Laden the CIA would ask about the kidney machine, and if the source said they saw it the CIA knew they were lying. Legacypac (talk) 00:28, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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Iraqi Army general

According to The Washington Post, he was a major Iraqi general. Why is this nowhere in the article? Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 12:40, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

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Wrong death date

On every section of the page it insists on the fact that al-Anbari was killed on the 25th of March 2016, but on the infobox it says he died on the 28th of February 2019, why? Also the infobox says he has allegiance to the Muslim Brootherhood, which is a typo of the Muslim Brotherhood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omir Laa (talk • contribs) 11:31, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

~~Omir Laa~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omir Laa (talk • contribs) 15:34, 30 August 2020 (UTC)