Talk:Abu al-Abbas al-Nabati

Latest comment: 7 months ago by R Prazeres in topic Ethnicity wording dispute

Coincidence

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I started writing a biography for this person today, without realizing that this article has been here for almost a year. Part of the confusion was his name; he was commonly called by two names: Ibn al-Rumiya and al-Nabati. He was also called al-'Ashshab, or by his kunya, Abu al-'Abbas. I will start moving citations and material from my sandbox to this article. MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:22, 4 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Ethnicity wording dispute

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Now that the recent edit-warring over an ungrammatical wording change has stopped (see 9 April 2024 edits), I've had time to investigate the sources. The trouble is that the inline citation is unclear: there are multiple editions of the Encyclopedia of Islam (and some are significantly different from each other) and "fascicules 5-6" is unfortunately ambiguous too. But I think what was probably meant to be cited was the Encyclopedia of Islam 2nd edition (sometimes "New" edition), supplement (volume XII), the entry entitled "Ibn al-Rūmiyya" by A. Dietrich. What that reference says is: "His allegedly Byzantine origin on the maternal side may have procured him the nickname by which he became known, but which he did not like hearing. In any case, he was a freedman of the Umayyads." ([1]). That's the online version. I believe a scan copy of the print version can be found here. This seems to be the right source.

So the wording can be changed from "his Byzantine Greek ethnicity" to "his mother's Byzantine Greek ethnicity", which sticks to the source and should resolve the IP's dispute. I'll try to improve the citation itself too. @Neuropol, please let me know if any of this appears wrong.

To the IP (@91.186.228.246): next time, use the talk page as requested and required by Wikipedia guidelines. I just did the work you should have done. R Prazeres (talk) 20:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)Reply