Talk:Academic ranks in Germany

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Privatdozent / Juniorprofessor etc. => Assistant Professor in most other systems W2 Professur => Associate Professor in most other systems

I note that this article is all about the office, or the title, of Professor which, strictly speaking, is not an academic rank, and even occupations like studentische Hilfskraft which are, on occasion, filled by people without any rank at all. The actual ranks are (old) Diplom-scholar or Diplom-scientist (more specifically of course), Magister artium, (new) Bachelor, Master, (both) Doctor, and arguably "someone having passed the First public examination in the subject of [e. g. medicine]" (equivalent to a Diplom or a Master).--2001:A61:20A2:3B01:C52F:EEE8:C1B7:75F9 (talk) 13:19, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

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Referent

How is this translated into English, e.g., N. Benecke is described in the German Wikipedia as having a Referent für Archäozoologie Kdammers (talk) 22:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Lost in translation

Native speaker of English, 41 years in Germany speaking German, studied physics and astronomy in Germany, Dipl.-Phys., Docteuer en sciences from Liège. Translating “außerordentlich” with “extraordinary” is not good, as the latter now means almost exclusively “very, very good” whereas the former is, in this context, better translated as “irregular” as opposed to a “regular” professor. In any case, it is a lesser position, whereas “extraordinary” implies that it is better. Of course, in English it originally had the same meaning as this sense in German, and in German is also used in the sense of “extraordinary. Not to be confused with “außerplanmäßig”: for example, most (all?) directors of Max Planck Institutes are außerplanmäßige professors at a nearby university, which means that the function as professors at the university (supervision, teaching) but are not paid by the university.

C-professor ranks

I've seen professors referred to with ranks like C3 or C4 rather than the W series, which aren't mentioned on this page. For example, Holger Stark says he "commenced his academic career as a C3 professor". And this random external biography describes someone as having held the position of "Universitätsprofessor (C4)". Are these current or former ranks, and could this page cover them? --Delirium (talk) 03:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Following up: I missed that this page *does* mention C2 and C4, so it's really only C3 that's missing. --Delirium (talk) 04:00, 25 August 2024 (UTC)