Talk:Accademia dei Lincei

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 艾伯特芬奇 in topic Pope Clement VIII

This should be blended with the associated entries. (old unsigned comment)

  • Looks to me like this has been done. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:52, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)


Accademia dei Lincei

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It was founded in 1603 by the young Prince Federico Cesi and his friends, Anastasio Di Filiis, Johannes Van Heeck, and Francesco Stelluti . It aimed at a radical renewal of scientific knowledge and it encouraged a vigorous critical approach to the dominant Aristotelian philosophy.

They chose the lynx as their emblem, to stress the importance of sharp and penetrating insight into nature. The Academy realized the revolutionary importance of the celestial discoveries that Galileo made with his new telescope in 1610. The Academy praised Galileo and elected him on December 25, 1611. The Academy defended Galileo in his controversies with leaders of the establishment and protected him when he was denounced to the ecclesiastical authorities. The Academy published at its own expense Galileo's Istoria e dimostrazione intorno alle macchie solari (see sunspots ) in 1613, and his Assayer in 1623.

The Academy did not survive the death of Prince Federico Cesi in 1630 and Galileo was left without influential help when his Dialogue concerning the Two Chief World Systems was attacked.

The Linceans produced an important collection of micrographs, or drawings made with the help of the newly invented microscope. After Cesi's death, the academy closed and the drawings were collected by Cassiano dal Pozzo, a Roman antiquarian, who sold them in 1763 to George III of the United Kingdom. The drawings were discovered in Windsor Castle in 1986 by art historian David Freedberg.

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Source

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Odd to see now that the article has been recently translated from the Italian Wikipedia. I translated from the official website directly, 18 September 2003. --Wetman 12:45, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Great if you will correct this. You can also create "See also" section.--Eleassar777 13:20, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've modified it to say that it "draws material from" our Italian article. I had translated the Italian article under a different title (Lincean Academy, I believe), then merged. The note comes from the other location. BTW, Wetman, you had no references section, so how was I to know what your sources were? -- Jmabel | Talk 19:39, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

Merge and Redirect

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I merged the contents of this article into Lincean Academy. I realize that the headings dictated a merge in the other direction, but as this is the English wikipedia, it should really be merged under the English name rather than the Italian one. Indrian 04:59, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

This was an error. --Wetman 14:51, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Probably both names are equally common in English. so I don't really care, but given that the previous proposal had been standing for some time without objection, it would have been nice either to do what had apparently been agreed upon, or to raise the issue on one of the two talk pages and give people 24 hours to respond. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:54, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
Which is why I posted it on the talk page here. It would have been quite simple to change it the other way if there was strong disagreement. Your point is, however, well taken. I appreciate the assumption of good faith that you have shown as opposed to the virtual label of vandal being placed upon me by certain others in this thread. Seeing as Wetman has found my move rather egregious, though not egregious enough to undo on his own, I have changed it to reflect the proposal. Indrian 02:26, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
I don't see an assumption of bad faith on Wetman's part. "…an error" means that he thinks you made a mistake, not that he thinks you were deliberately out to do damage. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:57, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
I have no problem with that particular comment. His sarcastic remarks further down do seem to imply that I would randomly move pages around out of either malice or stupidity. Indrian 03:04, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Well that's why we have pages on our Watchlists. I hope not to discover the Arch of Triumph on the Elysian Fields... --Wetman 23:59, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • And now I have changed it to go the other way. You could have done this yourself, of course, rather than directing what almost appeared to be thinly veiled personal attacks at me (I am assuming good faith that they were not, despite the apparent lack of good faith being shown towards me), but since that seems to be your only interest at the moment, I have corrected the "error," as you so delicately put it. Indrian 02:23, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Does somebody understand what this means?

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(italianized to Another important member of the academy was Luca Valerio.

If somebody understands what that sentence of the article means, please go ahead and make it intelligible. If this isn't done soon, I'll likely comment it out. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 00:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Federico Cesi

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I have taken down the redirect at Federico Cesi and put up an article on him. Editors familiar with this subject should check the article for factual accuracy and maybe expand it. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 16:01, 26 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

The name...

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...of course results from misinterpretation of the classical idiom "Lynceus' eyes", see Lynceus (Argonaut). Should we note this in the article? --Ghirla-трёп- 18:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I'm not so sure of your "of course". In Latin, the disyllabic proper name Lyn-ceus did have a trisyllabic adjective associated with it: lyn-ce-us / lyn-ce-a / lyn-ce-um, and it is possible to see this adjective, used as a substantive, in the formal Latin name of the academy: Lynceorum Academia, "the academy of those like Lynceus". But there is a common variant of the academy's name: Lyncaeorum Academia, from the Neo-Latin lyncaeus / lyncaea / lyncaeum, meaning lynx-like, and lynceus, of course, can be seen as a spelling simplification of lyncaeus. It seems to me that judging between the lynxes and Lynceus is not so easy. Rwflammang (talk) 01:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

New book

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Freedberg, David (2002). The Eye of the Lynx. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. ISBN 0226261484.

Innacurate claim

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Hi everyone,

I would like to make a point in the introduction. The Accademia dei Lincei was not "the first academy of sciences to exist in Italy" as it's stated in the article. But ONE OF the first. The very first scientific society to open not only in Italy but in the whole world was the short-lived Academia Secretorum Naturae (Accademia dei Segreti) founded in Naples in 1560 by Giambattista della Porta. I'll take the liberty and fix it. Regards In Ratio Veritas (talk) 18:32, 25 February 2014 (UTC)Reply


Hi all,

The photo that is labeled "Palazzo Corsini" is not the Corsini at all. That is the Villa Farnesina of Agostino Chigi, which is located across the Via Lundara from the Corsini. There are offices of the Lincei in the Farnesina. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.205.243.200 (talk) 13:47, 23 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

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How old is the academy?

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The first academy was founded in 1603 and ceased to exist after 50 years in 1653. 150 (!) years later a new academy was founded in 1801. And this shall be the same academy? From my point of view, these are two totally different institutions. Surely it's about making the academy one of the oldest, but you can't take that seriously. Saalebaer (talk) 15:38, 30 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Pope Clement VIII

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Article does not mention that the academy was founded under the patronage of pope clement VIII, according to vatican sources that was in fact the case. Important info to add? 艾伯特芬奇 (talk) 03:10, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

https://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/speeches/2003/november/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20031110_academy-sciences.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/20211003054736/http://www.pas.va/content/dam/accademia/pdf/es38.pdf
> The Pontifical Academy of Sciences has its origins in the Accademia dei Lincei (‘the Academy of Lynxes’) which was established in Rome in 1603, under the patronage of Pope Clement VIII, by the learned Roman Prince Federico Cesi. 艾伯特芬奇 (talk) 03:11, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply