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Bart Ehrman & Maurice Casey quotes are nothing but smears and should be removed.

The Bart Ehrman comments are nothing but smears and should be removed immediately - should never have been allowed to be here in the first place. Plus, Bart Ehrman was caught lying about her work by Dr. Robert Price and Dr. Richard Carrier:

Bart Ehrman caught in lies and libel? http://freethoughtnation.com/bart-ehrman-caught-in-lies-and-libel/

Here's what Dr. Robert Price had to say about this issue regarding Bart Ehrman:

“Such libel only reveals a total disinclination to do a fraction of the research manifest on any singe page of Acharya’s works.”

– Dr. Robert Price, page xxi of the book, "Bart Erhman and the Quest of the Historical Jesus of Nazareth: An Evaluation of Ehrman’s Did Jesus Exist?"

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Richard Carrier defended Acharya on this issue in the book too as well as across several of his own blogs:

“At the very least I would expect Ehrman to have called the Vatican museum about this, and to have checked the literature on it, before arrogantly declaring no such object existed and implying Murdock made this up … She did not make that up. The reason this error troubles me is that it is indicative of the carelessness and arrogance Ehrman exhibits throughout this book … [Ehrman] often doesn’t check his facts, and clearly did little to no research. This makes the book extremely unreliable. A reader must ask, if he got this wrong, what other assertions in the book are false? And since making sure to get details like this right is the only useful purpose this book could have had, how can we credit this book as anything but a failure?”

- Richard Carrier

http://freethoughtnation.com/the-phallic-savior-of-the-world-hidden-in-the-vatican/#comment-11233

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"Writing Did Jesus Exist was an interesting task. For one thing, before writing the book, like most New Testament scholars, I knew almost nothing about the mythicist movement." - Dr. Bart Ehrman

"Bart Ehrman also confesses on page two in his book, "Did Jesus Exist?," that for 30 years he never even thought to consider to question the existence of Jesus as real historical character because it was a question that he "did not take seriously." 96.41.151.31 (talk) 17:22, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

"Bart Denton Ehrman (/bɑːrt ˈɜːrmən/; born October 5, 1955) is an American New Testament scholar focusing on textual criticism of the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the development of early Christianity. He has written and edited 30 books, including three college textbooks. He has also authored five New York Times bestsellers. He is currently the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill." He is the leading authority on this subject matter in the world today, what he says is absolutely relevant for this article. Those blogs you refer to are not reliable sources and could not be used anywhere in the article:Anyone can create a personal web page or publish their own book and claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published media are largely not acceptable.Smeat75 (talk) 17:43, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

• Why is it impossible to get help here at Wiki? This is a prime example of how Wikipedia and it's (Christian) editors are so blatantly dishonest. Editors here on Acharya's page have no problem bringing in assorted libel and smears but, anything positive and you suddenly have BS reasons to omit it. Bart Ehrman and Maurice Casey have absolute ZERO credibility here. Acharya and other highly respected scholars proved Ehrman & Casey lied about her and her work. So, why are you promoting/advertising their trash books here? There is just no legit reason for it except to libel, smear and defame Acharya.

Acharya S wrote a couple chapters in a book you refuse to include here:

Bart Ehrman and the Quest of the Historical Jesus of Nazareth: An Evaluation of Ehrman's Did Jesus Exist? https://www.amazon.com/Ehrman-Quest-Historical-Jesus-Nazareth/dp/1578840198/truthbeknownfoun

Below are those garbage quotes that don't actually say anything - they only libel, smear and defame demonstrating they should never have been here in the first place - the biases here at Wiki is out of control:

Bart Ehrman: "the breathless conspirator's dream". He says "all of Acharya's major points are in fact wrong" and her book "is filled with so many factual errors and outlandish assertions that it is hard to believe the author is serious". Taking her as representative of some other writers about the Christ myth theory, he continues "Mythicists of this ilk should not be surprised that their views are not taken seriously by real scholars, mentioned by experts in the field, or even read by them"

"Maurice Casey criticized her work for "her anti-Christian outlook, a lack of any proper sense of reality, failure to give adequate references, inability to interpret primary sources correctly, and dependence on inaccurate out-of-date secondary sources rather than primary evidence."

Historian Richard Carrier destroys Maurice Casey's book and shows him to be untrustworthy on the subject of Acharya same as Ehrman:

Critical Review of Maurice Casey’s Defense of the Historicity of Jesus https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/4282

Here is a real scholar, a professor from Carnegie Mellon University, Dr. Paul J. Hopper, a longtime scholar who has been publishing peer-reviewed articles in journals for over 40 years and specializes in linguistics who has peer reviewed Acharya's/Murdock's article but no mention of that anywhere at Wiki because Wiki only means to defame, libel and smear her:

Jesus passage in Josephus a forgery in toto, says Greek expert http://freethoughtnation.com/jesus-passage-in-josephus-a-forgery-in-toto-says-greek-expert/

Josephus’s Testimonium Flavianum Examined Linguistically: Greek Analysis Demonstrates the Passage a Forgery In Toto https://www.academia.edu/10463098/Josephus_s_Testimonium_Flavianum_Examined_Linguistically_Greek_Analysis_Demonstrates_the_Passage_a_Forgery_In_Toto

"Paul J. Hopper is an American linguist of British birth. In 1973, he proposed the glottalic theory regarding the reconstruction of the Proto-Indo-European consonant inventory, in parallel with the Georgian linguist Tamaz Gamkrelidze and the Russian linguist Vyacheslav V. Ivanov. He later also became known for his theory of emergent grammar (Hopper 1987), for his contributions to the theory of grammaticalisation and other work dealing with the interface between grammar and usage. He currently works as the Paul Mellon Distinguished Professor of Humanities at the Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, USA."

Wiki refuses to include this great info and prefers to libel, smear and defame Acharya S/Murdock instead. Shame on you.

P.S. Why is "WikiProject Christianity" following Acharya's page? Is that why we can't get any Wiki editors here to remove the smears and replace them with the facts? No more dishonest Christian editors here, PLEASE. They are not honest on Acharya's page as they'll do anything to "poison the well," as they always have. 96.41.151.31 (talk) 17:48, 11 June 2018 (UTC)