Talk:Adam Ant Is the Blueblack Hussar in Marrying the Gunner's Daughter

References

This article needs to have references in order to make certain that this information is reliable. I will try to add references when I have some free time. Leinsatiableone (talk) 14:24, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Added a few myself! 86.161.48.181 (talk) 00:11, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

what!!

It's going to be released on CASSETTE? In 2011? are you shitting me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.78.71.18 (talk) 16:57, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

That is indeed Adam Ant's intention. Bear in mind that Adam has been off medication for some time and has been displaying symptoms of hypermania ever since the start of this comeback, so just because something isn't a good idea doesn't stop him intending to do it. 95.151.210.180 (talk) 18:30, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

In the event, there was no cassette, but I've left in the sourced info as a good illustrative example of Adam's frame of mind while promoting this album and the live comeback that surrounded it. 95.145.6.42 (talk) 21:06, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

(@ OP) Your a dick, very many people still use cassettes in "shitting" 2011, Analogue forever!, get back to your "shitting" compressed Ipod MP3's boy and don't bag on things you don't understand. ChaxUk (talk) 12:12, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

removed track listing

The track listing has been removed per ticket:2012041610008218. Furthermore, it violated WP:NOR -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 21:32, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I can't follow the link to that ticket so I can't see what their objection is. As for the accusation of original research, I made some minor modifications, but I can't see why the ASCAP database should not be seen as a reliable source. 95.144.245.155 (talk) 22:21, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

For myself, I get a 404 error if I click on the ASCAP link. Mr Stephen (talk) 22:33, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

They seem to have rearranged their site. I've updated the URL. When I've got more time I'll go through the list and put an individual reference for each song. 195.92.109.20 (talk) 09:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Done that! 95.144.241.149 (talk) 23:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Looking the data up in ASCAP is original research. Furthermore ASCAP doesn't specify these songs will appear on this album. Using the ASCAP data is original synthesis. Lastly, if you've seen the news about this album, you'll see it's indefinitely delayed for unspecified reasons. Without violating the OTRS confidentiality, I can guarantee you'll never see this album in the light of day if this information remains in the article. -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 01:18, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

What news where? Unless you mean the US tour postponement announcement from back in January and there was nothing about it being "indefinite" on there. Since then, there have been plenty of more positive announcements (from Adam and others in interviews) about the album.

Do not confuse the paranoid postulations of certain sections of the AntRap message board community with "news" if that is what you are talking about - we are talking there about people who seriously think that anyone would not only pretend to arrange a fake film screening but also post fake tweets to make people think there had actually been a screening, when it would be far simpler to actually have a film screening.

I've decided to humour you and leave your removal of the ASCAP entries off, although frankly if I follow your logic it would be impossible to use any online source as it probably got looked up on Google and Googling something would be OR, no? But you can kindly put Vince Taylor back on there, as that DOES also have a third party source. 195.92.109.20 (talk) 11:46, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Singles - what counts and what doesn't

Singles listings on Wikipedia page infoboxes are only supposed to list singles which actually exist! Not ones vaguely announced by the artist which never materialise. It's one thing to add planned singles to the list at the time of the announcement, quite another to still list them months - even years - after the artist has changed his or her mind and decided to put out something else instead.

Cool Zombie is the only "single" that passes the test. It has been released as a download single. It is currently being pressed up as a vinyl physical single. It has had a video made. In short it is a REAL single that REALLY exists.

Hard Men Tough Blokes b/w Punkyoungirl got announced as an upcoming single by Adam on an internet radio show in January 2011. Both demos got played on the show. Then nothing more was heard of the idea. Yes, both recordings are due to go on the album and each should be mentioned as an individual album track, but the single release idea has long since been abandoned. By all means mention the aborted plans in the main body of the text. But unless and until Adam revives the idea and puts HMTB/PYG out as a follow-up to Cool Zombie, it should not be listed in the infobox.

The same goes for the March 2010 planned single of Gun In Your Pocket b/w Who's A Goofy Bunny. These two were recorded together that month as a putative A-side and B-side respectively, but the idea was quietly ditched. Gun... is now a B-side, while WAGB is destined to be an album track. Both deserve their individual mentions in the article, but it would be equally wrong to list them as a single by now as it would be to list HMTB/PYG as a single.

To put this in perspective, there is a 1978 fanzine interview with Adam where he talks of releasing Friends as a follow up single to Young Parisians if the latter flops (which it indeed did at the time although it was a hit later.) No such single was ever released (although Friends was on side one of Do It's 1982 Antmusic EP). You wouldn't list Friends as an extra 1978 single in between Young Parisians and Zerox on account of that interview, would you? 86.144.13.119 (talk) 23:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

pyg was actually released on cassette. I saw a picture of it on a website that was selling it (and also saw it at a few record fairs), but can't seem to find the site again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.81.243 (talk) 19:16, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

That website picture was a Photoshop job. No one else but you reports seeing a copy in the flesh.86.150.178.24 (talk) 20:48, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Any chance you could post a link here to the image? I can't seem to find it, and would be interested in seeing it again. Was most likely a fan made cassette, as anyone can tape a few songs on it and slap a sticker on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.9.18 (talk) 16:24, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey, you guys. Physical release with music video, promotion etc = single. Song from album that is sent to radio stations to be played = promotional single. Hence, Tuff Blokes and Punky Young Girl = promotional singles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.9.18 (talk) 17:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

It wasn't even a "promotional single". Just a mooted idea for a single and a fake image of a physical copy. 95.144.189.47 (talk) 23:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

When I Was A Sperm

'When I Was A Sperm' is not an Adam Ant song, it is a song by Master Wel. The exact interview quote from Adam is "I would be quite happy to go into tough areas in the East End where they are shooting and knifing people and play them a few things to reach out to them. I have a track by a band called WHEN I WAS A SPERM – it’s a hard record, it’s an urban record. The kids need someone to come to them who they can respect, who can dance a bit." He said that he had a song called 'When I Was A Sperm' BY A DIFFERENT BAND, he DID NOT say it was his own song. He said he would get troubled teens to listen to the song.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/3354938/.html

Check out the John Robb interview for Vive Le Rock. He talks about it as being his own recording there. Yes I know it's a Master Wel cover (although it seems John Robb didn't.) but Adam definitely talks about himself having recorded a version and IIRC Robb implies that he's heard it. 86.150.178.24 (talk) 20:53, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Cover Model

So the chick on the cover is a painting? Who stood model, she looks vaguely familiar? 213.54.32.128 (talk) 17:13, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

1) Her name is Georgie (yes, yet ANOTHER one!) and she was a regular model for the painter Mary Jane Ansell. Read all about it: http://www.adam-ant.net/mja.html

2) Using the word "chick" like that is not big nor clever, just sexist and annoying. 86.131.191.20 (talk) 10:38, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Already in the article: According to Ant, the front cover is "Girl in a Cocked Hat" and the back cover is "Girl in a Cocked Hat II", both of which are paintings by Mary Jane Ansell. Ant says that the girl depicted in the artwork is the gunner's daughter, and her name is Georgie "and she’s a little punk rocker." 86.131.191.20 (talk) 10:47, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

On a tangent, the video for "Cool Zombie" has several shots of a woman dressed up to look like cover model ("come closer"). Was this "Georgie" or a lookalike? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 21:23, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Yup, it's the real her. The very same. 62.190.148.115 (talk) 11:02, 15 July 2016 (UTC)