Talk:Adder/GA1

GA Reassessment

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GA Sweeps: On hold

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing Sweeps to determine if the article should remain a Good article. I believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a GA. However, in reviewing the article, I have found there are several issues that need to be addressed.

1. The lead needs to be expanded to better summarize the article. See WP:LEAD for guidelines.

   Lead expanded. Albeit smaller than usual, all the Viper articles have been crafted by Jwinius to have a minimalistic lead. Please indicate whether more expansion is required. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

   Looks better, but I'd recommend adding another paragraph (an article of this length should be at least two paragraphs). Make sure each of the sections are touched on and it shouldn't be too hard to add a few more lines (you can also split off some of the sentences from the first if necessary). --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 02:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

   Done. Is it okay now? AshLin (talk) 11:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

2. For the infobox, there is a long list of synonyms. I don't know if this is common practice for most animal articles, but if not, could it be reduced or maybe a hide/show feature be used?

   Standard format for all Viperidae articles. IMHO let this be changing the location synonyms will mean changing location of synonyms in more than a hundred articles. The uniformity of Viper articles IMHO being encyclopaediac, I'm letting this stand for the moment. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

   Works for me, just wanted to be sure. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 02:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

3. Although it is not required by GA criteria (so it will not be a requirement for the review), it would be beneficial to add alt text to the images. See WP:ALT for assistance.

   Done. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

4. There are a few dead links that need to be fixed. The Internet Archive may be able to help.

   Done. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

5. The "Common names" section just starts off listing names. An intro sentence would be beneficial, perhaps detailing the reason for the large number of names. In addition, the second paragraph of the section is unsourced.

   Opening sentence added. Refs added. Done. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

6. Same thing for the "Geographic range" section, add an intro sentence detailing the range.

   Added opening sentence. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

7. The "Conservation status" and "Taxonomy" sections either need to be expanded by a few sentences (or more) or incorporated into another section. Any other paragraphs in the article with two or less sentences should also be expanded or merged.

   Combined subspecies & taxonomy. Added more facts & correct upto date refs to limit possible. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

   There are still a few paragraphs that are only one or two sentences long. These should be expanded or merged. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 02:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

   'Conservation status' done up. Don't have access to useful material which adds more details about the taxonomy or physical descriptions of the subspecies. AshLin (talk) 11:47, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

8. There are a few sentences throughout the article tagged with [by whom?] since August 2009. These need to be addressed.

   Done. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

9. "Once they reach about 30 cm..." This needs the measurement equivalent. Fix any other occurrences within the article.

   Sorry, I could not make out what you exactly want. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

   I apologize for not providing more details. The United States customary units should also be included (such as inches). Look at some of the measurements in the description section for examples. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 02:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

   Done some but if we convert the units in the venom section (mg/kg) then there will be a awful mess which I dont imagine will help clarity, readability or screen-reading. Please give directions whether these should be done.

10. "Interestingly, Appleby (1971) notes that he has never seen an intruder win one of these contests, as if the frustrated defender is so aroused by courtship that he refuses to lose his chance to mate." An inline citation should follow this.

    I'd recommend moving the citation to the end of the sentence. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 02:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

    Done.

I will leave the article on hold for seven days, but if progress is being made and an extension is needed, one may be given. If no progress is made, the article may be delisted, which can then later be renominated at WP:GAN. I'll contact all of the main contributors and related WikiProjects so the workload can be shared. Once the above issues are addressed, I'll help do a final copyedit of the article. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 04:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Nehrams, Jwinius is on a (permanent?) wikibreak. So I'll address some of the issues to the best of my abilities. --AshLin (talk) 19:28, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

GA Sweeps: Kept

Good work addressing the issues. I went through and made some minor changes, please review my edits. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good Article. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would be beneficial to update the access dates for the online sources. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 00:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)