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Copyvio from http://africanhistory.about.com/library/weekly/aaAdinkra.htm

Anthere 19:05, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Affected revisions removed. --Michael Snow 06:33, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

There are several Adinkra symbols.

Italics?

Is it in fact correct to italicize every usage of the word adinkra, just because it's not a natively English term? I'm pretty sure it can be considered a loanword here. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 03:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Supersymmetry

I removed a mention of a supersymmetry representation called "Adinkras" from this article on the West African symbols, but the removal was reverted. From my searching these physics "adinkras" have gained little outside attention, but someone might know better. I don't think this physics concept belongs at all in an article on a protoscript - can anyone suggest a better article for that content, to which a hatnote or other short note could point? Fences&Windows 21:48, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

If it's notable enough to be on Wikipedia, it should fit in somewhere else more suited to its subject, and not have to be relegated here... AnonMoos (talk) 00:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

New article? (is that what split means? I'm a wiki-edit novice in that regard). Material certainly notable in physics and "popular" -- principal author lectures regularly at first rate academic and "lay" venues worldwide, PBS/Nova, etc. (do a search on Gates for verification). I personally like their appearing on the same wiki-page since one is cloth and the other is potentially the fabric of the universe. But perhaps Adinkras (SUSY) needs its own page. Chris (talk) 05:58, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it is notable enough for a separate article (though I could be wrong - let's see some more sources!), so I'm proposing a split of that material to be merged into another appropriate article. We can mention them here, but entirely separate concepts that share a name don't belong on the same article. Fences&Windows 22:12, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Let me (and the greater wiki-us? :) ) know what constitutes a wiki-worthy source and I'll try to dig them up. I'd be reluctant to try to bring Gates himself into the mix (wiki-vanity issues I guess?). Nonetheless, the web indicates that these ideas are on the lecture circuit and I'm moderately sure they've appeared on PBS via Nova (in addition to the academic stuff which may or may not be wiki-worthy). I see this kinda like (Eric/Erik?) Verlinde's "gravity from bits" arguments that are all the rage right now. HMMMM! Doesn't Gates have a wiki page of his own -- which means he's notable enough himself? Might this be best placed on Gates' wiki-page with a cross link mention to this adinkra cloth page (since the concepts are just so cooly interelated even as they're very different things). That is, I'm reasonably sure Verlinde's new gravity stuff has gotten about as much play (academic and media) as Gates' adinkras stuff and -- let me see -- yup, it's on his page. In fact, it seems to be the MAIN thing on his page -- so I'm not sure it applies here. arrgh.

Regardless, whatever wiki-SOP is seems like a good thing. Gotta keep the information organized correctly or it rapidly becomes useless. Chris (talk) 02:58, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Really should have a mention of the physics usage on here - but ONLY a mention. The super-symmetry researchers chose to use the names of these proto-script patterns to describe the "objects" they found in the math. Actual adinkra patterns are used in their articles in relation to the math. So there is clearly an important relationship between the two. Still, this isn't the place for a whole sub-section on the mathematical symbols. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.130.18 (talk) 22:29, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

First Person Speech Detected

Quote: "50. This, I was informed, was a new design copied from Europeans." Really Mr. William K. Pedia? Or did Jimmy Wales write this article? (I do not doubt the statement, and don't want to mess with the article but rather bring this to the attention of the Wikipedian who knows how to deal with a matter like this.) Please delete this subsection if (unquoted) first person speech is actually OK in Wikipedia articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.91.56.165 (talk) 17:28, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Since that whole section is titled "Symbols listed by Rattray" and begins

Robert Sutherland Rattray recorded a sample of fifty three adinkra symbols and their meanings in his Religion and Art in Ashanti (Oxford, 1927)

I think we can safely infer that

1. the "I" is Rattray
2. the entire list of descriptions, along with the image, is quoted from that source.

--Thnidu (talk) 17:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

"I fear none"

Rattray translated Gye Nyame as "Except God (I fear none)", as when it was first added to this article, and according to this book. I've reinstated the parenthesis. —JerryFriedman (Talk) 03:33, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

it makes more sense with parenthesis, it is not even common in African languages to have this meaning. When it comes into a literal translation you get Except God. But even in Arabic lā ʾilāha ʾillāllah not the direct "no god, but God". --Inayity (talk) 17:46, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, JerryFriedman Thanks for your edit. Even I think reading it this way; I fear none, except God is best. But yours is according to the source. :-) →Enock4seth ^(talk) 12:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to both Inayity and Enock for the replies. I think we agree on the wording. Now what do people think about the possibility of adding a note that some authors understand "Gye Nyame" as "No one was present at the Creation except God"? Sources are [1] and [2]. Or should that be left for the future articles on the individual symbols that you mentioned on your talk page? —JerryFriedman (Talk) 22:49, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, JerryFriedman, I think we leave that for future individual articles. Thanks also for the links and your research.. →Enock4seth ^(talk) 23:15, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 1 July 2016

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Adinkra symbols → Adinkra – 'symbols' is redundant. The thingy is called unabbiguously 'adinkra' Staszek Lem (talk) 20:44, 1 July 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 13:07, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

The book "Symbols of Africa" by Heike Owusu (ISBN 0-8069-2871-9) consistently uses the phrase "Adinkra symbols". It may partially be a kind of "The La Brea tar pits" situation, but Wikipedia goes by "common name"... AnonMoos (talk) 14:54, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Oppose A JSTOR scholarly search discloses that Adinkra symbols is far more common usage when referring to the symbols and the singular use of "Adinkra" when referring to the symbols is rare. --Mike Cline (talk) 10:16, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

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