Talk:Adrian Garcia

Latest comment: 7 years ago by InternetArchiveBot in topic External links modified

Repeated removal of Inmate Abuse section

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Initially, one user tried to delete the entire cited section that I wrote about a week ago. After another user restored it, it was deleted again. Most recently, it's been restored. The section is accurate. While it doesn't reflect well on Garcia, it's important information that belongs in his Wikipedia page. Wikipedia isn't a place to make an elected official look perfect- that's for his/her campaign website. Wikipedia is supposed to be a collection of verifiable facts. My earlier writing contributed towards that goal.

Rather than deleting it again, I'd suggest anyone that has a problem with it to voice their concerns in the Talk page (as it was intended for). ~bog5576

Agreed. Also, edit summaries like these: [1][2] are way overboard. Also -- could you please use four tildes (~) to sign at the bottom of your edits? Thanks. GAB (talk) 01:09, 22 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
I've taken a look at it, and it definitely appears to be slanted, though the parts about Garcia himself should be retained. I'm taking a crack and creating something a bit less WP:ATTACK-based. Usterday (talk) 16:30, 15 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Inmate Abuse

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There seems to be a lot of material written on the inmate abuse stuff. I'd argue that it's enough to dictate its own section. Thoughts? AfricaUniteJamming (talk) 14:49, 16 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

I am reverting your edits for now, as they are identical to someone blocked for doing this yesterday, and will engage with you about it further in a moment. Usterday (talk) 14:52, 16 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
If you wish to discuss why Wikipedia does not encourage such sections here, I am open to it. However, that your account has only been used to edit the pages of a recently blocked editor, only to return to make the exact same edits that user made yesterday, is highly suspicious. Are you the same person who operated that account? If not, why are you only editing on the same pages and at the same time as the now blocked account? As per WP:BLP, we have to be excessively careful in adding negative material about living people; that means we can't use inflammatory language, nor can we use extensive details from sources that barely mention the person, or don't mention them at all per WP:SYNTH. Beyond that, we cannot use only the negative parts of a source, ignoring the rest, as the material added intends to do. As per sections just on scandals, etc, this is not how things are done in BLPs, or frankly, any page. Any material, good or bad, needs to be integrated into the text and not separated. Usterday (talk) 14:58, 16 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
All of the inmate situations are still here, not to worry. Nothing negative has been removed, the language has just been made neutral, such that the material is more in line with Wikipedia's neutrality standards. Especially important in a BLP. Usterday (talk) 15:04, 16 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Sockpuppetry on Adrian Garcia page

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Both of the above users Bog5576 and AfricaUniteJamming have been indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry, verified by checkuser, for their behaviour on this Wikipedia page. We should be on the look-out for future socks here, if they arise. Usterday (talk) 14:23, 19 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Update - User:YoHomieWhatsUp has edits that match the sockpuppetry of Bog5576 exactly, and the user has now been reported. You can read more on the developing long term abuse here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Bog5576. Usterday (talk) 17:23, 27 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
The user has now been blocked as a sock of Bog5576. Usterday (talk) 18:11, 27 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
I suspected it. GABHello! 19:14, 27 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
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