Talk:Adrian Warburton

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Idumea47b in topic "25 feet"?

What a name!

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I had thought that Sergeant Frank Bastard was the result of vandalism, but from what I can determine, the name is real. Have to wonder what his parents were thinking when they named him though... Clarityfiend 19:23, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

They were thinking: "Let's name him 'Frank.'" 172.131.84.109 08:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)RKHReply

The town where they found his remains, "Egling an der Paar", I live in the evry vicinity, though I hear of it the very first time. Does anyone know the exact location where his remains wwere found?


The documentary which covered the discovery of his aircraft and remains was very good. It sited the reason for his being sent to Malta as "punishment" for marrying without his commandering officer's permission. It also covered his romance with a local Malta girl (Christine Radcliffe?)during the war. Badgerbreath (talk) 12:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Re: Adrian Warburton The article contains a number of errors. First - In 1944 the Luftwaffe didn´t remove "most" of Adrians body. In my role as VDK casualty officer I established that an unspecified limb was recovered by the then time Feldgendarmes and ( probably ) transported to Kaufering, where there was the grave of a Halifax crew. We couldn´t trace the limb. Most of the body ( i. e. 60 p. c. - good average )was recovered by Dr. Anton Huber of Landsberg and the USAAF-team / the VDK. For comprehensive information read "Reported Missing" by our friend Roy C. Nesbit. To the person living nearbv : The site is on the premises of Mr. Braumüller just outside the locality. -Laage- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.234.109.166 (talk) 08:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Discovery

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I want to know more about how they identified the body. I gather the body was discovered and buried as a presumed American, and was later identified by an investigative group searching for Warburton specifically. This isn't mentioned in the article. How did they verify it was him? By the specific aircraft type and deduction? Dental records? DNA? Anyway, article is misleading by inferring that he was found and recognized initially, and not mentioning the work of the investigators. It is in the Daily Telegraph article in the references..45Colt 09:25, 18 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

The account as given seems a bit ambiguous. The suggestion on one specialist forum is that the bulk of Warburton's remains from the Lightning were recovered in 1944, and buried at Kaufering as an "unknown American" next to the Halifax crew. The latter were certainly removed to Dürnbach in 1946, but what happened to the "unknown American" is unclear, and it is suggested that he may have been reburied with the Halifax crew at Dürnbach at that time. It would appear that only minimal remains were found in 2002 when the crash site was re-excavated in 2003, and that these were then buried at Dürnbach separately in 2003. However, an article in After the Battle#124 suggests that the "unknown American" was not buried at Kaufering in 1944, and that all six (not seven) of the Halifax crew were identified before reburial. Nick Cooper (talk) 13:40, 7 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

"25 feet"?

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I don't for a moment believe anyone was using photos snapped from a plane at an altitude of 25ft and a speed of 200mph for any useful purpose. The field of view would be tiny and would just be a blur from the speed of the aircraft. What kind of damage assessment can you do from that hieght? Maybe he flew at that altitude for some part of the mission, but but when he was collecting the photos. Oblique or vertical or forward-facing, you need a certain altitude for aerial photography to be useful. Idumea47b (talk) 14:06, 11 July 2023 (UTC)Reply