Talk:Advanced Mobile Phone System

Initial comments

Hari Kumar M L, Lecturer, Regional Telecommunications Training Centre, Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited, Trivandrum, Kerala, INDIA.

TACS should not redirect here. AMPS should redirect to a page about TACS. TACS existed in 1979, AMPS existed in 1983. It is incorrect to allege that TACS is a version of AMPS because in fact the opposte is true.

Also, incidentally, Vodafone UK are still using TACS corner-reflector mesh antennae on large sites, although these are used to broadcast 2G at the moment. They are gradually replacing 60 degree corner reflectors with 120 degree panel antennae, the typical ones you see atop many towers.

Merger proposal

Forgive my clumsy intrusion as I am new to making Wikipedia comments, and I'm not sure whether this is the correct time/place to mention the following. I take issue with part of the "Evolution of Successor Companies" graphic in this article. I worked in cellular for 7 years starting in 1988 for Cellular One in the Chicago suburbs. They were eventually bought by (or became) Cingular. And, Ameritech (the cellular arm) was absorbed by (or eventually became) Verizon Wireless. I'm 100% sure of this. In fact, I now see it's already elsewhere in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameritech_Cellular & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_One... John Gerald 02:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.189.21 (talk)

Should the article Advanced Mobile Phone Service be moved to a history section in this article? It seems that the company represents the history of AMPS and nothing else. AMP Service (the entity) was AMP System (the product) at first and has been nothing else since. Jason McHuff 08:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, if the merge is done, could someone change the link at the bottom of Template:Bell System? It would help a lot as I think many articles that link to the "Service" page do so through the template. Jason McHuff 09:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Do not merge - I don't see the rationale for the merger. The Advanced Mobile Phone Service article is not about the standard, which was used by various entities, not just the former. We might just as well merge T-Mobile into GSM. --Squiggleslash (talk) 08:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with your first part, except for the fact that it appears that, at first (before "various entities" used it), AT&T was the sole AMPSystem operator and the note that this article would be about the standard and the list of companies that provide(d) it.

As for the second part, the situation here is, I think different. T-Mobile deserves a separate article (in addition to being mentioned in the GSM article) because they are a big company with a big network. AT&T's AMPService, however, was a) essentially AT&T's mobile service (and could be mentioned in the Old AT&T article besides here), b) not very big (it was the start of cellular technology), c) appears to only have lasted for a couple months(?) until the AT&T breakup as well as d) the original, starter version of the AMPSystem.

It just seems like AMPService is intertwined with the history/start of the AMPSystem and did nothing else. It would be as if T-Mobile created a little GSM network and then went defunct. Jason McHuff (talk) 11:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Do not merge - To merge this article with the page about the network would simply be illogical. This company, Advanced Mobile Phone Service, Inc. was a precursor to what is now AT&T Mobility and Verizon Wireless. Even though the company used the Advanced Mobile Phone System, that doesn't mean that they should be intertwined. This article is simply about a cellular company, not the network. Keep the pages separate. KansasCity (talk) 16:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

• Merger seems to have died so I'm removing the tags and marking this closed. feel free to reopen with fresh tags. Do not revert, because that will repost the stale dated tags. --Kevin Murray (talk) 01:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Was this used in the UK?

The article makes no mention of use in the UK yet the phone in the headline (and only) photo says "British TELECOM" on it. 00:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.0.68.41 (talk)

Built in 1977, online in 1978

Currently the articles on Mobile phones are claiming that Japan had the first cellular telephone network in 1979. However according to AT&T's own archive video, AT&T built the AMPS system in 1977, went online in 1978 and had 1300 customers by 1979. I'd say this beats Japan by at least 1 year, if not 2. The video along with historical information can be found here and a mirror of it is on youtube. One of the articles previously referenced talks about a historic phone call made from Chicago to Germany in 1983, but this was far from being the first publically made call. AT&T's archive video interviews several people who were apparently not AT&T employees who were already using the AMPS system in 1978 and 1979. The FCC apparently didn't approve the network until 1982, which seems kinda strange, but I think that's irrelavent. People were using it to make public calls. I'll update the articles to reflect this. ----Deltaray (talk) 18:12, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

f (MHz)

This column in the table appears to be wrong. Or I'm not understanding anything about it...(?) 84.222.66.136 (talk) 20:17, 22 July 2023 (UTC)