Talk:Aero & Tech Nexth

Challenged information

Some of the information in this article has been challenged. See recent Edit Summaries. This is the place to determine what should be in this article. GeorgeLouis (talk) 08:36, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Infobox information is not normally footnoted, but in this case the challenged information has now been completely sourced, line-by-line from an independent third party source. In their edit summaries the editors challenging the text claim to represent the company, although this cannot be confirmed. The information they have been trying to add is not sourced anywhere that I can find. I have recently gone through the company website in detail and cannot validate any of the claims made from it or any other source. The website seems to have not been updated since 2012, by the page dates. We have to go with the most up to date sources available, especially the best third party source, which is what the article currently does. I would suggest that if these editors really do represent the company then if they would update their company website to indicate things like who designed the aircraft, when the first flight was conducted, the current pricing, whether it is in production or not and so on, then I would be very glad to add these facts and their sources to the article. - Ahunt (talk) 12:53, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

The company additions of unsourced information and the addition of their website in the article text, as in "For updated information contact the website www.aeroandtech.com." has been reverted again. This is just WP:COI and WP:SPAM. Wikipedia is not here to advertise products for companies. If the company is going to update their website, great. As I noted above when they do so I would be the first in line to incorporate any relevant information into the article. - Ahunt (talk) 21:04, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

It looks like the company has added some sort of refs for some of the text added, but the refs are very incomplete and were malformed. I have tried to incorporate them, but they seem to be paper refs and thus I can't look up all the missing data, like author name, title, pages, etc or confirm that any of the text added is supported by the refs. I have also removed the repeated insertion of WP:PEACOCK marketing language, particularly "The Nexth is an revolutionary, advanced aerodynamic design". This does not belong in Wikipedia, it belongs on the manufacturer's website, as it is pure marketing. I have also removed repeated attempts to insert the company website into the article text. As explained here in Wikipedia policy repeatedly adding spam links into the article is considered vandalism. - Ahunt (talk) 12:14, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

http://www.fliegermagazin.de/news/detail.php?objectID=5625 gives an accesible source for the designer being Morelli Luca albeit using google translate from German. MilborneOne (talk) 16:50, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

That is a good find, thanks for adding it! An IP seems determined to add WP:PEACOCK marketing language to the article and removed sourced text. This is really getting down to vandalism now. - Ahunt (talk) 18:46, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I have tagged the one ref added as doubtful for supporting "LTF UL". The list of these magazines on the A&T website does not include any ref that supports this, but the ref added does not indicate edition or author so perhaps it is one they missed? The World Directory of Leisure Aviation ref does support that the Nexth is in the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale microlight class however. - Ahunt (talk) 12:46, 10 February 2015 (UTC)