Talk:African socialism

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So there have been many interpretations of "African socialism": what are some of them? How would an African socialist economy work? —Vivacissamamente 16:54, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

The same way any Socialist economy works, namely very poorly. As for examples, Tanganyika/Tanzania is the wellspring of the idea. Most countries have adopted it thouh post decolonisation with the notable exception of Botswana (and to an extent Kenya).

80.4.195.109 15:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

So you don't like socialism. Fine. Now how does African socialism differ from classical socialism? I know now that it works in an "African way," so what does that entail? Right now, it's excessively vague. —vivacissamamente 04:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

"Excessively vague" is a nice way to put it. This page contains absolutely no information. Saying that African Socialism is like socialism but African, which is the essential statement made of the article as it now stands, might indeed qualify this as the most very worthless article on wikipedia. I came to this page seeking some information and instead I find an article I could have written myself without knowing anything on the subject... btw, French toast is like toast except it's French. Vvibbert (talk) 22:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/108912919/Excerpts-From-Enhancing-the-People-s-Power-Religion-and-Revolution-President-Ahmed-Sekou-Toure — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.67.99.105 (talk) 15:34, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Melanesian socialism?

Since we've got articles on African socialism and Arab socialism, it would be good to have one on Melanesian socialism - a concept developed, if I recall correctly, mainly by President Walter Lini of Vanuatu, influenced by Julius Nyerere's African model. The idea is that Melanesian societies are inherently inclined towards socialism (valuing group welfare over individualism; communal ownership; etc...). I can probably contribute a stub on the topic, but I'm not an expert. Aridd 18:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I've created a (fairly short) article on the topic. Feel free to expand on it. Aridd 10:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

The Malanesian socialism espouses the socialist international ideology, just in a form that is reflective of existing traditional values and practices. IN that respect it is correctly placed within the socialism series.

However in direct and complete contrast, this article on African Socialism does not describe a leftist ideology, but rather clearly describes an opposing ideology which rejects the ideologies described in the series.

The page clearly described the historical practice of nationalist ideologies to portray themselves as socialist, this is due to the historically accepted legitimacy the socialist label carried. The particular form of nationalism described is a type of African pan-nationalism, yes it is related to Arab Socialism (which is itself a form of nationalism, or Arab nationalism). The key words which cement this, "claimed that it was not the opposite of capitalism nor a response to it, but something completely different." That goes along with "neither left nor right". It is no more socialist, than would be national socialism, in other words it's nationalist.

Please correct this error, it actually serves as propaganda in it's current location. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.10.249.225 (talk) 23:46, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

OR tag

I added an {{OR}} tag to the article. The lead needs inline references and any listing of individuals, countries or organizations needs to be linked to a certain definition of the subject. --Soman (talk) 12:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

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[1] seems like a good startingpoint for a rewrite. --Soman (talk) 09:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

This article needs a re write. Perhaps it should feature a list of countries in Africa that adopted socialism, or at least link to those countries articles? Mathiastck (talk) 19:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Great suggestions; perhaps, also a discussion on the economic and human cost incurred in the attempts at reforming the old colonialism. The implication is that self-determination within-a-genaration becames impossible under those hostile conditions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.55.152 (talk) 14:09, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Definitely not NPOV

This entire article has a tone somewhere between dismissive-to-outright hostile towards its subject- It could have been written by a Reagan State Department flack or a functionary in the Rockefeller Foundation at some point in the Seventies.

It also doesn't include the obvious critique of the flaws in African socialism-in-practice, which lay in the fact that, 1) Being dependent on Soviet or Chinese aid, African socialism was simply not African enough- that it tended far too much towards bureaucratic, top-down approaches rather than the implicitly democratic idea of managing the socialist project at the village level, and 2) that the development model was grounded in an emphasis on industrializing the economy that simply wasn't appropriate given the conditions.

It's an open question as to whether African socialism could have worked, or could work now, if it rejected all aspects of the Leninist/industrialist approach and worked on a model of cooperative democratic management of the economies of African countries from below. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:4E00:7876:DC4C:1BD1:7F72:4C69 (talk) 20:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

African Marxist Socialism?

Its a pretty big topic missed off the article 86.5.73.176 (talk) 17:20, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

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