Talk:Age and health concerns about Donald Trump

Biased

This is one of the most biased pages I have ever seen. I am not biased towards Trump or Biden. In fact, I have equal opinions of both of them, but take a look at the “age and health concerns of Joe Biden” page compared to this one. This page is clearly biased, but I’m afraid editing it will cause it to become protected.

98.109.122.80 (talk) 16:27, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

This page is already protected, to the extent that as it is under arbitration remedies. If the Biden article is underdeveloped compared to this one, the solution is to expand that article along similar lines of coverage in reliable sources. Everything on this page is sourced information. BD2412 T 16:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

When your sourced information is the mainstream media, it is extremely biased against Trump. Trump won the election winning both the popular vote and the electoral college. This fact completely negates the statement that a majority of people think his health is a concern.

This page sounds like an anti-Trump page designed to influence voters. Since he won the election, a revision is needed. 2600:8800:3B01:8A00:B08C:73F7:72BB:E4F6 (talk) 17:51, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Severe pro-Democrat bias

What a joke. I don't support either party but this is absolutely pathetic. The author don't even try to make it sound neutral. Alas, nothing is ever completely impartial. "Sourced information", that doesn't excuse the twisting of "the narrative" to the author's ideological viewpoint. Wikipedia is meant to be neutral! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.90.88 (talk) 19:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

This page almost exactly parallels the Age and health concerns about Joe Biden page, which was kept as it is following a lengthy deletion discussion. The existence of both pages demonstrates ideological balance. Of course, there is more substance to this page, but that is event-driven, as Biden for example has no family history of dementia to report, never had a doctor's office raided for records, and was never hospitalized for Covid. BD2412 T 22:23, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

It’s not even close to being parallel to the page of Joe Biden. Firstly, there are no trusted sources that can claim Donald Trump has dementia. Secondly, “narcissism” is neither an age nor health concern.

108.24.127.83 (talk) 23:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

The article doesn't say that Trump has dementia, it says that that concerns about this have been reported by at least some medical professionals (as cited in reliable sources), which they have. As for "narcissism", there is a specific condition, narcissistic personality disorder, which is indeed a DSM-listed mental health issue. Again, the article doesn't say that Trump has such a condition, but that reliable sources have reported that some experts in the field assert that he does. BD2412 T 12:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Regarding dementia and NPD it is speculation aka gossip and it needs to be cited as such. A trusted source is not some random Dr paid to come on TV to spew nonsense and foment hate. Pelosi also made a comment concerning Trump's mental health which is an absolute joke considering her role in the scam/sham Biden presidency. 2600:8800:3B01:8A00:B08C:73F7:72BB:E4F6 (talk) 18:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Can you suggest a specific change that you think should be made to specific text in the article? BD2412 T 18:23, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

There's a striking difference between this page and Joe Biden's. What i immediately noticed was Trump's page having an "Incidents" heading, mentioning a bunch of gaffes of his, some of them could barely be called as such, like confusing the name of a physician who tested him six years ago. The part about reports of Trump having a lisp, but it being explained as a techical error in the broadcast in the following sentence also questions whether or not we should call it an "incident" if it actually were a broadcast error. Meanwhile Biden's page has no such "Incidents" heading, despite the numerous viral clips on the internet consisting of sniffing hair, falling of stairs, a bycicle and a flat stage, not to mention the literal compilations of him misspeaking or saying complete nonsense. All of these gaffes that aren't mentioned on his page would be a strong ground to raise concerns for a serious mental decline, instead Biden's page has pretty vague comments of him being "confused" and "disoriented". I know i may be indicating bias towards Trump, but i am definitely not supporting him. I believe both Trump and Biden are too senile to be running a country and way past their mental and physical primes, but such differences in both pages seemed unbelievable to me, that i had to write this comment. I have no idea whether this is deliberate or not, but if it is, it's disgusting and unproffessional. Bananmizzz (talk) 22:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

@Bananmizzz: It seems that your concerns are more with the Age and health concerns about Joe Biden page, and should be addressed to that talk page. Note, however, that a large number of editors added content to that page, and any of them could have added the sort of content that you describe—as you can, now. In fact, I would encourage you to expand the Biden page according to your comments here. BD2412 T 02:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Add A Fact: "Trump claims crowd reaction at audience-free debate"

I found a fact that might belong in this article. See the quote below

During an appearance on Fox's The Five on Wednesday, Donald Trump claimed that the crowd went crazy for him at last week's debate, even though there was no audience.

The fact comes from the following source:

https://hillreporter.com/watch-trump-claims-that-crowd-went-wild-at-audience-free-debate

Here is a wikitext snippet to use as a reference:

 {{Cite web |title=WATCH: Trump Claims That Crowd Went Wild at Audience Free Debate - HillReporter {{!}} |url=https://hillreporter.com/watch-trump-claims-that-crowd-went-wild-at-audience-free-debate |website=HillReporter |access-date=2024-10-01 |language=en |first= |last=Todd |quote=During an appearance on Fox's The Five on Wednesday, Donald Trump claimed that the crowd went crazy for him at last week's debate, even though there was no audience.}} 

This post was generated using the Add A Fact browser extension.

BD2412 T 12:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Claim that Trump was shot

The section about the 2024 assassination attempt currently claims that "Trump was shot and wounded in his upper right ear by Thomas Matthew Crooks, a 20-year-old man from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania". The sourcing does not support this claim. The first sources states that the USSS had "not yet publicly confirmed that Mr. Trump was shot in the ear", whereas the wording makes it sound like 1) Trump was shot i.e. hit by a bullet and 2) that the ear wound is the result of the bullet, and not, say, shrapnel. I suggest we reword this to "Trump was shot at by Thomas Matthew Crooks, a 20-year-old man from Bethel Park, Pennsylvania" and leave the ear part to the second paragraph. Cortador (talk) 22:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

@Cortador: Reword it, then. BD2412 T 23:29, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Trump and Biden same age 4 years apart.

Note that Trump is the same age Biden was in 2020 2600:6C46:6800:21F8:C090:8BA7:F018:C4FF (talk) 05:57, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Close, but not exactly. At this point in 2020, Biden was still 77, while Trump is now 78. BD2412 T 13:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Is an infobox still relevant for this page?

I think it would be better off if it's replaced with a photo regarding his health concerns. The infobox on Biden's page was already deleted, so well I think the same should be done for Trump's page. G0dzillaboy02 (talk) 14:55, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Fully agree and  Done. The infobox was serving no purpose — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)