Talk:Ahmedabad/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

....bad

Why do the cities ed in "bad" like Islamabad, Ahmedabad. etc... Is it something to do with the language? I presume it means cityTourskin 05:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I cannot give you any source right now, but probably this suffix "-bad" comes from abad which in Urdu (and may be in Arabic) means a populated place. nagar is another suffix for many South Asian places. Nagar in Sanskrit means town. These are somewhat like "-ville" in many English speaking nations. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it translates as "City of Ahmed" (Sultan Ahmed Shah being the founder). As far as I know the suffix abad originates in Persian. Abecedare 09:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

The suffix 'abad' comes from Persian not Arabic. It means 'abode' or dwelling place not exactly 'city'. Maquahuitl 13:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Watch out

Featured articles have been vandalized lately. User:Jarex 5:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

True. Request some sort of a Write-Lock. Check the edits @ around 1:50 AM IST on 20/01/2009. Down with Vandalism!! :) Sanjit Nair (talk) 20:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Great Religious Diversity?

As it is now, the article states that this city enjoys "great religious diversity." It seems to me that the majority of citizens are hindu. What constitutes great religious diversity? Diversity compared to what? 68.165.56.43 17:59, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

• Why make comments which have no factual basis, have you ever been to Ahmedabad? What do you know about ahmedabad. To make any comments about any city without even having seen it once in person is nothing but a prejudiced remark made by the one sided reporting of a place made by some third person. Please visit ahmedabad first before making such comments. I have enough hindu, muslim, christian, sikh, jain, parsi and sindhi friends to know that such a diversity exists and i dont depend on some media reports but i know it first hand. And please if you do want to start a debate do not go and hide under the cloak of anonymity. lets have a free and fair debate about it under wiki policy.Kaushal mehta 08:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Come on guys, let's be civil about this.. Maybe he is asking a genuine question.. let's not get defensive. --Rev.bayes 22:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
• As far as wiki policy goes, when you say that you "dont depend on some media reports but i know it first hand", you are exactly describing what is called Original Research. Eleven even (talk) 04:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
• I agree with the comment 'great religious diversity'. If you go to lal darwaja, you have a mahalaxmi temple and opposite to it you have a big masjid. I know people from different religions living happiliyt togather for years in ahmedabad. But at times is highly sensitive to communal riots.
• Seems that Ahmedabad does have religious diversity, especially when compared to baselines in other parts of the world. Is that what OP was asking? I mean, if you compare to the diversity of a Scandinavian country, for example, Ahmedabad seems very diverse. According to Kaushal mehta, there are clearly well over 6 major religions represented within the city. I believe this constitutes "religious diversity" Amit (talk) 03:20, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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CONGRATULATIONS!!!

It's being a while since I logged into wikipedia. I was really surprised to see this page being a featured article. I am really really happy! It seems a nice start to the weekend.

CONGRATULATIONS (and Thanks) to all the contributers who made it to this level.

alren (talk · contribs · count) 22:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations to all the contributors and everyone who helped write this article. Proud day for an Amdavadi. I am sending this to all my friends. --Rev.bayes 23:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I just logged in for 2 minutes yesterday to look at the article on the main page. It looked awesome :) I have gone through all the edits made yesterday. Mostly vandalism, but not as bad as I had expected. - Aksi_great (talk) 11:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia Iranica link

This link:

• Ahmadabad entry in Encyclopaedia Iranica

Was added by a Columbia University IP along with many other links to the site. I have moved it hear in keeping with our external links guidelines so unconnected editors can evaluate its appropriateness. Many of the websites entries are short and may not contain much more than the articles they have been added to. However, this might be a good source even if editors do not consider it an appropriate external link. -- SiobhanHansa 22:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopedia Iranica is produced by Columbia University and is a scholarly source. It should not be removed from the articles as they are pertinent sources of reference.--Zereshk 12:49, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Well done!

Hello all who have worked on this article! Very well done. I was pleasantly surprised to see the level of research and hard work that has gone into this article. Shu vaat chhe!!--Mayalekhni 07:33, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Ogg file for pronounciation of "Ahmedabad" in gujarati

Hi, Can anybody tell me how to upload the ogg file of pronounciation of "Ahmedabad" in gujarati? Thanks in advance.--Nirajrm Δ | [sign plz] 23:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

This article need an unofficial FAR

I think this article should be reviewed as this article may not meet some of the criteria of a FA. The main problems are 1a, 1b, 1c and 2b. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 07:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

events

should we not have a link to events in the city. (ie- the 2008 bombings?) it would be appropriate to link from this page to that. Lihaas (talk) 04:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It is already present. Check at the end of history section. --gppande «talk» 09:00, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Subtext to photo

There is no such thing as "retail industry". Do you mean textile industry or retail stores?--dunnhaupt (talk) 21:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Ahmedabad

The posh area of Ahmedabad are Satellite,Vastrapur,Shahibagh,Naranpura —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.72.91.50 (talk) 09:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Karnavati redirect

Why does Karnavati redirect to this article? I don't see any mention of that word in the article. Tomer^talk 07:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Demographics

This edit to the demographics section represents rank original research. There is no reference to indicate that the current population estimate of Ahmedabad is anywhere near 60 lakh (6 million). The best estimate available from a reliable source is 3,959,432.^[1] If there is no objection, I will revert the given edit. Please discuss here before restoring this text. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:49, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

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this article has neutrality and citation issues

Various gems that I have found:

• Ahmedabad has become a hot spot for real estate development many developers are eyeing the Ahmedabad market for development of residential property.

Unsourced.

• Ahmedabad is on its way to become be the Detroit of the East

Senseless and unsourced promotionalism.

• Ahmedabad is a thriving center for Chemical and Pharmaceutical industries... In recent year many foreign companies have set up their sales offices and production facilities in Ahmedabad.

This is a nice example of unsourced wikipuffery.

• Ahmedabad enjoys a thriving cultural tradition

So doesn't every other city?

• Ahmedabad is only city where Marriott group hotel has exclusive veg restaurant in the world

An extraordinary, but unsourced claim.

• However, it is most famous for its food stalls that start to emerge around 8 in the evening, with various local street snacks and goodies. Out of all Pineapple Sandwich & Gwalia Dhosa are world famous

Most famous compared to what?

• in the new city, one can also find the North American restaurants like McDonald's and Subway

Non-exhaustive list. elle _{vécut heureuse} ^{à jamais} (be free) 01:07, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Willing to help clean it up. Will start shortly. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Never mind 05, I have  Done it. Thanks! →TSU ^tp* 05:40, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Wrong sex ratio

AFAIK sex ratio is approx. equal to 1.0. Here the number is 903. What is the correct number? Gil_mo (talk) 04:45, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I suspect the number comes from the Census of India source. I can't find the latest data right now, but this is the 2001 data: [2]. You can see that they use the numbers as number of girls per 1000 boys. This is not the scientific standard, you are correct, but is the CoI standard. If you want, you could correct it based on census data and use the most common scientific notation. effeietsanders 07:17, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

It's 903. I got the source, it's from census 2011 government website here. The first .xls file contains the information. --kondi ^{talk/contribs} 08:27, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the number is probably correct. But the way it is presented is not the scientific standard. See Sex ratio - usually the ratio results in a number between 0 and 2 depending on the definition used. effeietsanders 12:18, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

In the infobox i've written 1.11. --kondi ^{talk/contribs} 13:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Refs

A few refs linking to http://www.ahmedabad.org.uk/index.html have been added. Can they be used? I don't see them as verifiable sources. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:01, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

I had doubts regarding it and was thinking to consult with Karthik. I'll remove them and find alternative to it. →TheSpecialUser^Talk_{Contributions} 09:04, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Not only this one, there are many which I'll be removing soon. I don't think one can achieve a GA with these kind of references. Kondi (talk) 09:07, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Here is one more: http://www.ahmedabadinfomedia.com .. Seems like a blog. BTW: Who's Karthik? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

are tourist websites accepted?? Even govt ones??? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 05:50, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

I think so as it is recognized by Tourism ministry of Guj and Govt. of India. So it is less likely that they will upload false info. →TheSpecialUser^Talk_{Contributions} 05:52, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Question: I haven't removed the references for now. But TheSpecialUser how can you (and want us to) believe that the website is acknowledged by Govt of Gujarat? Kondi (talk) 07:49, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

See this: http://www.gujaratindia.com/ (Official state portal) in the bottom of the page, theres a link which opens into http://www.gujarattourism.com/ from which, I cited. If you still feel that the website is not proper, please remove the ref and also try to find few. →TheSpecialUser^Talk_{Contributions} 07:56, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Whoa, first of all the discussion here is about [3] and [4], I was referring to these two websites. Second you might wanna see the history to see how many references I have added (and which are reliable). Kondi (talk) 09:47, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

GujaratIndia.com says Copyright 2009, which may result in factual inaccuracy. A Tourism site, Govt. or not, serves to get more people to the locality, and hence will have a POV. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

We work per consensus so please remove if this is final. →TheSpecialUser^Talk_{Contributions} 09:57, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Consensus isn't required for removing dubious refs. Besides, since you are aiming for a GA, remember that during the review, such links will be removed. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:59, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Transport

The transport section shouldn't be more than a paragraph long, nor should it have sections as most of the content is already present in a separate dedicated article. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ankit Maity (talk · contribs) 06:57, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   • Wikilinks should only be made if they are relevant to the context. Common words do not need wikilinking. Fixed
   • Spelling mistake: "Mugal" → "Mughal" Fixed
   • Grammatical errors such as "A image" found. Fixed
   • Avoid peacock terms, such as "beautiful", "famous", "popular", "well-known", "significant", "important" and "obvious". Fixed
   • The lead should adequately summarize the content of the article. (I see the lead tells nothing about cuisine and all.) Fixed

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   • Web references need the author, publisher, publishing date and access date.  Fixed
   • More sources needed in "Etymology", "British rule", "Art and literature", "Air", "Rail", Education" & "Media". Fixed

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

 Comment: Thanks for reviewing it. Can you please keep this open for 2 weeks or 3 during which I will address the issues. I'll make changes as soon as possible. Cheers! →TSU ^tp* 07:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

If fixes happen within one week, only then you will get extra time.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 15:48, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

I've just gone through the references and corrected them where necessary; fixed some citations for consistency (converting to {{cite}}) and added missing info where available. Ankit, would you mind tagging the bits you think need references (per GA criterion 2) with a {{cn}} template; it would help those of us trying to fix the article to focus our efforts. Cheers, Yunshui 雲‍水 12:01, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Have also slightly expanded the lead to cover culture, sport and twin cities. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:26, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

 Done Whatever I could.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 15:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, will try and work on them today. Yunshui 雲‍水 06:39, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, have added citations for all but three of the tags. Two I've removed because the text doesn't require citations for the purposes of GA (although obviously references would be good!), the one in the Etymology section I've left - I can't find a source for this saying in English sources, so I think one of our Indian editors (I'm looking at you, TSU!) will have to find it in the original Hindi. Yunshui 雲‍水 07:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Yunshi for your great efforts! I am getting more busy day by day and thus my activities might reduce but I will still be here. I have added to the popular saying (it was though) and as said by Yunshi, other 2 things didn't needed to be cited. So Ankit, can you change the mark at references if it is okay now. I m working on other fixes too. Cheers! →TSU ^tp* 08:23, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I've now removed all of the irrelevant wikilinks I could find. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:16, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, just some tasks more.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 11:28, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I think I've addressed everything. I've removed irrelevent wikilinks; double-checked spelling, grammar and tone (although I may have missed some things, it's a long article!); expanded the lead a bit (and removed the references from it); added full details to those citations where such detail was available and unified them all under the {{cite}} template format; and added citations to all those sections that required it. Ankit, please could you re-review when convenient and let us know if there's anything more you feel needs to be done? Yunshui 雲‍水 12:24, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Just add the reference and then I will pass this GA request.--Ankit Maity^Talk_Contribs 16:16, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I m little confused here. Can you please clarify that what actually needs ref? Cheers! →TSU ^tp* 16:19, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Never mind. Sorry, got it now. →TSU ^tp* 16:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

For now, I provided 2 refs and removed 2 unsourced lines. I may re-add them in future if I got any sources. For now, I think that I have addressed your issue :) →TSU ^tp* 10:50, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

More information needed

Very little information about the new west zone of Ahmedabad is included in the article; a lot of these areas are fast becoming the most important commercial stretches of the city. Including some information and pictures might be a good idea.

--Khemchandani (talk) 07:39, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

There are almost 20 museums in ahmedabad but article do not have many of them. write different article on it and then feature extract on museum section of this article.

--Nizil.. (talk) 00:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Festivals should include Kankaria Carnival held in last week of December. -- Nizil (talk) 12:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Media section

• worldspace radio is no more since 2008. it came back as a mobile and internet radio. ref: http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/worldspace-makescomeback/468368/ so i removed it from this section.
• s fm renamed red fm.
• Gujarat uni. campus radio added.
• Gyan vani is not private radio station but educational radio from IGNOU and others.

- Nizil (talk) 23:02, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Sports

Sabarmati merathon should be included as its an international event happening in city. -- Nizil (talk) 11:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC) I added it myself. strating working on article on it. Nizil (talk) 19:58, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Himalay mall is not one of the biggest malls in ahmedabad

It never was too. It was one of the most popular but its not even that now. Iskon mall is the biggest mall in ahmedabad or maybe balaji agora, need to check my facts on this one. Just wanted to say that that picture is old and the caption is kind of misleading. So shall we change that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick2047 (talk • contribs) 19:05, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2014

Please insert this information into the article regarding Ahmedabad's pioneering Heat Action Plan:

Ahmedabad is the first city in India and South Asia to comprehensively address the health threats of extreme heat. The Ahmedabad Heat Action Plan is attempting to do so through an early warning system and heat preparedness plan. It also focuses on community participation, building public awareness of the risks of extreme heat, training medical and community workers to prevent and respond to heat-related illnesses, and coordinating an interagency emergency response effort when heat waves hit.

Hickman0 (talk) 13:56, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2014

Hi,

I have a few suggestions for minor changes related to grammar, sentence formation and citations on this page. Since I have a new account, and this is a semi-protected article, I am unable to make any edits.

Follows a list of my suggestions. Please feel free to either add them yourself or give me feedback about them so that I can update them once my account is confirmed.

1. SUMMARY BOX (ON THE RIGHT EDGE) i)There seems to be some confusion in the literacy rates of Ahmedabad, the city vs Ahmedabad, the district. Since this is a page devoted to Ahmedabad as a city, and not a district, the summary box on the right panel needs to be updated with the right info for the city's demographics. CORRECTION- Literacy rate: 89.62% (and not 86.65% as mentioned in the box. The article has the correct number elsewhere so it makes sense to sync up the two) Source: http://www.census2011.co.in/census/city/314-ahmedabad.html

Done And corrected the later information to again match the source. Older and ... well older (talk) 13:50, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

2. GRAMMAR & SENTENCE FORMATION i) (Introduction Section, Para 1) ORIGINAL - It is the administrative headquarters of Ahmedabad district and is the judicial capital of Gujarat as the Gujarat High Court is located here. CORRECTION - It is the administrative headquarters of the Ahmedabad district as well as the judicial capital of the state of Gujarat. The Gujarat State High Court is located here.

Done Older and ... well older (talk) 13:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

ii) (Geography Section, under the image "Ahmedabad_Panorama_1.jpg") ORIGINAL - Following a heat wave in May 2010, reaching 46.8 °C (116.2 °F), which claimed hundreds of lives, the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation (AMC) in partnership with an international coalition of health and academic groups and with support from the Climate & Development Knowledge Network, has developed the Ahmedabad Heat Action Plan CORRECTION - Following a heat wave in May 2010, reaching 46.8 °C (116.2 °F), which claimed hundreds of lives, the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation (AMC) in partnership with an international coalition of health and academic groups and with support from the Climate & Development Knowledge Network developed the Ahmedabad Heat Action Plan

iii) (Geography Section, under the image "Ahmedabad_Panorama_1.jpg") ORIGINAL - "It also focuses on community participation, building public awareness of the risks of extreme heat, training medical and community workers to prevent and respond to heat-related illnesses..." CORRECTION - It also focuses on community participation, building public awareness of the risks of extreme heat, training medical and community workers to not only respond to but also help prevent heat-related illnesses

Done ii and iii. Note: the resulting sentence from iii is not consistent in tense. Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

3. MEDIA SECTION i)ADDITION - Ahmedabad is also the city of license for Radio Mirchi Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Mirchi

Not done: Please provide a reliable source, WP is not reliable. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

4. CULTURE SECTION i)(1st para, third line from the bottom) "Christmas" needs a link to its Wikipedia article.

{ Done Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

ii)(2nd Paragraph, 3rd line from the top) ORIGINAL - "...sweet dishes include laddoo, mango, and vedhmi." CORRECTION - ...sweet dishes include laddoo, shrikhand, aam-ras, vedhmi and different halwas & barfis.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

5. INTRODUCTION SECTION i)Last line - As of 2014 Ahmedabad's estimated gross domestic product was $64 billion. This line is already mentioned in the ECONOMY SECTION. Either remove it from the INTRODUCTION SECTION or if it needs to be kept there, please add a citation to it.

Not done: The lead should summarize the article and should only have citations for controversial claims. The article is the source for the lead. Older and ... well older (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

6. GEOGRAPHY SECTION i)(4th line from bottom up) "It houses the main railway station..." This railway station is also known as Kalupur Railway Station Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmedabad_railway_station

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. WP is not a reliable source. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

ii) (1st line under the image) "Following a heat wave in May 2010, reaching 46.8 °C (116.2 °F), which claimed hundreds of lives..." The above needs citation. Sources: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/Heat-wave-in-city-Over-50-people-dead-already/articleshow/5982648.cms http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/weather-researchers-fear--may-2010-heat-wave--may-return-to-city/944740/

Done I used the second source. The first was during the heat wave and didn't support the claim of "hundreds". Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Jaymodi12688 (talk) 18:31, 12 June 2014 (UTC) Jaymodi12688

Partly done: Thanks for improving the article. See above for details about the individual requests. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 14:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in Ahmedabad

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Reference named "USIndia":

• From Pune: "US-India Sister City Relationships". Asia matters for America. Retrieved 2017-04-10.
• From Bangalore: "US-India Sister City Relationships". Asia Matters for America. Retrieved 5 May 2015.

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It seems that Jamalpur, Gujarat is a district of the city which may not be independently notable, so I suggest a merge in. Klbrain (talk) 22:58, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

I have no problem with merge but look at Category:Neighbourhoods in Ahmedabad. Many of them are of same size and info, mostly without refs. What should we do about them?--Nizil (talk) 18:59, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.204.146.66 (talk) 12:37, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

I think it should not be merged. Jamalpur is a notable neighbourhood which is often mentioned in the news. I have added some additional information to the article. A145029 (talk) 03:16, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

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Hi every body Somy cocept of speech is this that i want to continou my education in India because many probloms su h as sucide attaks and kid nappind so i hope that you accept this apologizing thank you waiting for your answer . Masoud Alkozay (talk) 18:58, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

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Article has been tagged with sourcing concerns since Dec 2013, the lead does not adequately summarise the article, it is cluttered with inappropriate media and images. Opening GAR. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 20:16, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

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Article has been tagged with sourcing concerns since Dec 2013. Starting GAR. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 20:21, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

• Keep. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 21:37, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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• There is a reference section. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:25, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
• Prose is clear and readable. I haven't checked for copyvio - there are a wide range of sources, and the information is mainly factual. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:36, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
• Article is stable. There are some minor reverts of IP edits; nothing significant, and not enough to warrant protection. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:39, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
• Focus. There are no details which are overly long or overly detailed, and the article as a whole is not overly large. However, as part of ongoing development, some tightening and trimming could take place to reduce wordage or unessential facts. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
• Main areas of interest are covered. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 11:03, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
• Images now OK. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 16:41, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
• Citing has been sorted out. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 09:29, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
• Possibly biased language has been dealt with. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 09:29, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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Fail

• MoS issues. WP:Lead does not appropriately summarise article. There are too many images WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE. Images squeeze text WP:MOSIM. There are some short paragraphs and sections MOS:BODY. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:21, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
• It has been tagged for referencing concerns since Dec 2013, which is a quick fail criteria WP:GANO?. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:24, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

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There is a decent article at heart here, but it needs tidying up. Looking through the "Article milestones" on the talkpage, the article as of August 2006, when it was promoted as a Featured Article, is a decent core; while it doesn't quite meet GA standards today, it does indicate that the article is essentially OK if tidied up. The reviews over the years indicate that the article has been prone to editors adding text, media and images without much thought to our editing guidelines and policies, and is indicative of casual editing by inexperienced editors on a popular article. While the edits have not been vandalistic (intentionally bad), the effect has been the same as if it were, as the article has suffered, and become unreliable and off-putting. Looking more closely at the edit history, I see TheRedPenOfDoom has done much to keep the page under control, though various unhelpful edits, such as this escape attention as they are sourced and not vandalistic. Given that the article needs a fair amount of TLC to bring it back up to scratch, I am putting the GAR onhold for the standard initial seven days (though of course will extend that as needed), and putting the article on semi-protection for the duration of the GAR and a bit longer, to give some stability. As standard, will let main contributors know what is happening. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 14:26, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

No progress has been made. WikiProjects have been contacted. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 07:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

I have added sources wherever necessary.--Skr15081997 (talk) 06:56, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Well done for that. I'm going to have a closer look at the lead later to see what can be done there. At the moment I feel the article's GA listing is secure. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 09:30, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

• I still have some concerns about the lead, which needs further development, and the article could do with some further tightening and cleaning. However, the concerns are not enough to justify a delisting, so I'm closing this GAR as a keep. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 21:37, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok Ayush Patel 001 (talk) 11:40, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Correction to make: The founder of Ahmedabad was a Khatri Muslim who converted to Islam. Please see the article Gujarat Sultanate for more information.

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Is procession of Tajia during the Muslim holy month of Muharram intrinsic to the Culture of Ahmedabad ?

Just like Diwali, Holi, or Christmas, Muharram is celebrated pan India by Muslims. I think the Culture of Ahmedabad section should be unique to Ahmedabad only. Refer This.

Please let me know if you have any arguments. Would like to discuss it. SpunkyGeek (talk) 01:49, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

As you know, there is an article Demographics and culture of Ahmedabad. I can see the case for moving some of the stuff (where backed by citations that really support what is said) to the article on the culture of Ahmedabad.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:20, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Area and population figures in the infobox

Old version	Corrected version
Ahmedabad/Archive 2 Metropolis Area  • Metropolis 505.00 km2 (194.98 sq mi)  • Urban 1,866 km2 (720 sq mi)  • Rank 8th in India (1st in Gujarat State) Elevation 53 m (174 ft) Population  (2023)  • Metropolis Est 8,650,605  • Rank 5th  • Urban 6,357,693	Ahmedabad/Archive 2 Metropolis Area  • Total 1,866 km2 (720 sq mi)  • Rank 8th in India (1st in Gujarat State) Elevation 53 m (174 ft) Population  (2023)  • Total Est 8,650,605  • Rank 5th

References

1. Times of India, 19 July 2020.^[5] Ahmedabad's area has increased by 39 sq km to approximately 505 sq km, encompassing a population of approximately 75 lakh now. ... Ahmedabad has added 39 sq km with one full municipality, Bopal-Ghuma; two villages, Chiloda-Narodagam and Kathwada; and partial revenue areas of seven villages, Sanathal, Bisalpur, Aslali, Geratnagar, Bilasiya, Ranasan and Khodiyar. The city area is now 505 sq km, from 466 sq km earlier.
2. GNS News, 19 July 2020 (dead link but start of the article was archived).^[6]] Ahmedabad’s area has increased by 39 sq km to approximately 505 sq km, encompassing a population of approximately 75 lakh now</ref>
3. Citizen Matters, 8 September 2020.^[7] ... the Bopal and Ghuma Municipality, which have now been included in the Amdavad (Ahmedabad) Municipal Corporation limits. ... When the 2011 Development Plan became operational in 2013-14, the AMC civic limits was 466 sq km until the new areas added 39 sq km to this, taking the total to 505 sq km.
4. Amdavad Municipal Corporation (archive link to their old website), 27 June 2013.^[8] Area 464.16 sq km. Population (2001) 45,05,539 Also has a brief summary of the history of Amdavad city [another spelling of Ahmedabad]
5. Ahmedabad Urban Development Authority.^[9] In addition to the area falling under the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation's limit, it also includes 5 growth centers and 169 villages of Ahmedabad district. The expansion of AUDA comes of 186600 Hectares(1866-sq. km.) Area, which includes Ahmedabad City (Municipal Corporation) of 44950 Hectares.
6. Amdavad Municipal Corporation (current website).^[10] In 2006, Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation included 17 other municipalities and 30 Gram Panchayats in its jurisdiction. Therefore, the total area of Municipal Corporation became 449.343 sq.kms. and its population reached up to 44,42,498. In 2008, the municipalities of Chandkheda and Motera were also included in the jurisdiction of the corporation. At present, the total area of the mega city is 464.16 sq. kms. and its population according to 2001 census is 45,05,539. Does not mention the elevation, which is the fact it is cited for.
7. worldpopulationreview.com.^[11] Ahmedabad's 2023 population is now estimated at 8,650,605. ... These population estimates and projections come from the latest revision of the UN World Urbanization Prospects. These estimates represent the Urban agglomeration of Ahmedabad, which typically includes Ahmedabad's population in addition to adjacent suburban areas. ... As of 2016, there is an estimated population of over 7 million people living in Ahmedabad, and over 8 million people living in the metropolitan area. i.e. the data come from modelling, and it is not explicit which definition of Ahmedabad's boundaries the data are for.
8. citypopulation.de.^[12] Has census data for Ahmedabad urban agglomeration given below. It gives the area for the 2011 census as 471 sq km, and the elevation as 53 m.

Comparison of sources 7 and 8 for different years.
Year	citypopulation.de census data	worldpopulationreview.com modelled data
1991	3,312,216	3,668,109
2001	4,525,013	4,955,429
2011	6,357,693	6,412,713
2023	-	8,650,605

So the two data for area in the infobox are (1) the area of the Municipal Corporation (the city) 505 sq km, and (2) Ahmedabad Urban Development Authority 1866 sq km. This needs to be made clearer.

• Citations 1, 2 and 3 support the Municipal Corporation figure. Citations 4 and 5 are for two different old versions of the Municipal Corporation figure and should not be cited for it.
• Citation 5 supports the Ahmedabad Urban Development Authority. It is rather concerning that it has a figure of 449.5 sq km for the Municipal Corporation, which is out of date.

-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:00, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

What the Indian Census Says (Excel file)
Year	Population			Area (sq km)
	Ahmadabad Urban Area	Ahmadabad	Ahmadabad Municipal Corporation	Ahmadabad Urban Area	Ahmadabad	Ahmadabad Municipal Corporation
1961	1,265,081	1,199,131	1,199,131	156.07	118.23	118.23
1971	1,871,006	1,750,134	1,750,134	296.09	152.92	152.92
1981	2,733,952	2,534,641	2,534,641	336.03	192.92	192.92
1991	3,631,233	3,324,197	3,324,197	425.17	264.55	264.55
2001	4,912,912	4,488,237	4,470,006	613.81	423.41	397.08
2011	6,357,693	5,633,927	5,577,940	1,060.95	518.87	468.92

-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)