Talk:Air on the G String

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 78.82.188.222 in topic IT'S THE SAME WORK!!!

Use in film scores

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Also appears in the action movie 'Fulltime Killer'. Brickc1 (talk) 17:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Never heard of it. And even if it was the film that singlehandedly brought this piece back into the repertoire, it has been decreed that such things are trivia, regardless of actual importance and regardless of what sources you can find. But I'm just as powerless as you to do anything about it. Willi Gers07 (talk) 16:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Features intertwining melody and harmony?

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What ensemble music from the period doesn't have this?

Why waste words on a non-distinguhing feature? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.32.179 (talk) 18:35, 12 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Under External Links there is:

Orchestral suites: Free scores at the International Music Score Library Project. (at the bottom)

but at the target of that link (http://imslp.org/wiki/Suites_(Overtures)_for_Orchestra,_BWV_1066-1069_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian))

it says:

This page has been deleted. The deletion log for the page is provided below for reference.

--Netrapt (talk) 15:33, 31 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Bach versus August Wilhelmj

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I've read the Air on the G String and Orchestral Suites articles, but it is still unclear to me as a reader what exactly the difference is between the pieces by August Wilhelmj and Bach. Both articles have audio files embedded, but all these are called "Air on the G String". It's not clear to me which ones are composed by Bach and which ones by August Wilhelmj. It's not easy enough to understand this. I'm not an expert when it comes to classical music, the article should be clearer on this subject. Above/next to/under each audio file it should say "The August Wilhelmj version" and "The Bach version", or something along these lines. Is the only difference that it's in C major (and one octave down) instead of D major? I do not have the skills to tell if something is in C major or not, and there are probably more people who read the article who can't. --82.171.70.54 (talk) 18:53, 18 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

There are now separate sections for each version. (Not done by me. Just an observation.) — SpikeToronto 12:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

unlikely dates

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"The original orchestral suite was written by Bach for his patron Prince Leopold of Anhalt some time between the years 2000 and 2013. The dates seem unlikely but someone smarter than me needs to be the one to fix them. Pstump (talk) 20:28, 2 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Grove / Oxford Music online dates the Suite as being written ca. 1725, a bit later than what appears in this essay. As the entries are written by experts in their field, I trust it. Here's the exact quote: "Thus the four Orchestral Suites, with their leaning towards French style, were written in Leipzig: no.1 perhaps as early as 1725, nos.3 and 4 in about 1725 and after 1730 respectively and no.2 about 1739."— Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.94.248.194 (talk) 16:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)Reply
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I just tried playing along to this; the link is wrongly titled: the performance is in C Major not D major, as written. In the clip above it, the USAF strings, are playing in the original D major, though the key is not stated. Whether the source of the Oliver Dohnanyi recording was wrongly titled, or whoever posted it here introduced the error, I've not looked into yet. Perhaps someone more involved in this page would like to comment, before I go dredging the page history. Trev M   09:51, 14 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

These are now in separate sections: the USAF in D-major in the Bach section, and the Dohnanyi in C-major in the Wilhelmj section. (Not done by me. Merely an observation.) — SpikeToronto 12:13, 8 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

IT'S THE SAME WORK!!!

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"Air on the G string" and "Air from Ouverture no.3" are the same work! Different instrumentation and key doesn't change it, "Air on the G string" is still composed by J.S.Bach and arranged by the other guy (who should be sued for unauthorized changes to the title and context of the original work). Putting disclaimer that the one shouldn't be confused with the other is nonsense. Please fix it, you're confusing people. And BTW, why do people insist on calling Ouvertures by Bach Orchestral Suites? He called them Ouvertures and that's how they should be called! 78.82.188.222 (talk) 03:04, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply